[Peace-discuss] Tim Johnson / killing people

Laurie Solomon ls1000 at live.com
Sun Oct 17 14:46:23 CDT 2010


Of course Carl, that is bullshit.  His soul just as Gill's intentions are 
precisely what is at issue since one's voting decision is really about trust 
in the candidate and the candidates judgment and long range overall 
intentions.  What a person does in terms of actions may be taken as an 
indication of of their general beliefs and intentions, morality, honesty, 
and trustworthiness in general only if their actions are of proven 
consistence over a relatively long period and not fleeting opportunistic 
pragmatic expressions based on the prevailing winds of the moment.

Unlike the mass marketed notion of representation which would have it as a 
opinion poll driven popularity contest in which the representative follows 
the demands of his constituency as necessary for political expediency, the 
voter in reality can only participate under Edmund Burke's notion of 
representation in which representation is not actual but virtual; wherein 
the voter selects someone to virtually represent them base on the voter's 
perception and expectations of a candidate's general beliefs, good judgment, 
morality, honesty, trustworthiness and intentions (e.g., the candidate's 
general soul which underlies any overt and specific actions, decisions, or 
judgments they may make over the long run with consistency).

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From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu>
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 2:10 PM
To: "Karen Medina" <kmedina67 at gmail.com>
Cc: <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Tim Johnson / killing people

>  The state of Tim Johnson's soul is not at issue.
>
> His vote against the war (and David Gill's lack of same) is.
>
>
> On 10/17/10 11:47 AM, Karen Medina wrote:
>>> Killing people is the most important thing the Obama administration is
>>> doing.
>> For many years, Tim Johnson had no problem with killing people in
>> Iraq, Afghanistan, ...
>> Tim Johnson STILL has no problem with the United States support of
>> Israel killing people.
>>
>> ergo: Tim Johnson's motivation is not the stopping of killing people.
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