[Peace-discuss] DN: NAACP Report Ties Tea Party to Militia and Racist Groups

C. G. Estabrook galliher at illinois.edu
Thu Oct 21 15:41:09 CDT 2010


To paraphrase, "Ask where most of the funding, who are the biggest contributors, 
and where most of the PR for the Democratic party comes from. And so what 
conclusion may one draw?"

My favorite answer would be how BHO sang "The Ballad of Rich Richman" for his 
supper last month. Jane Hamsher wrote, "I still can't quite wrap my head around 
it the fact that Obama thought it was a good idea, in midst of 9.6% 
unemployment, and on the day after the census bureau announces that 1 in 7 
Americans are living in poverty, to show up at the gated Connecticut mansion of 
a guy named Rich Richman and tell a privileged few at a private $30,000 a plate 
[sic] fundraiser [the following:]

      "...after being in this job for two years, I have never been more 
optimistic about America. I am optimistic partly because we did some really 
tough things that aren't always popular but were the right things to do. 
Democrats, just congenitally, tend to get -- to see the glass as half empty. 
[Laughter.] If we get an historic health care bill passed -- oh, well, the 
public option wasn't there. If you get the financial reform bill passed -- then, 
well, I don't know about this particularly derivatives rule, I'm not sure that 
I'm satisfied with that. And gosh, we haven't yet brought about world peace and 
-- [laughter.] I thought that was going to happen quicker. [Laughter.] You know 
who you are. [Laughter.]

We should treat that remark with the contempt it deserves - and conversely.  --CGE


On 10/21/10 2:38 PM, Brussel wrote:
> Karen,
>
> Ask Carl where he gets his data (re. his first line below). Ask where most of 
> the funding, who are the biggest contributors, and where most of the PR for 
> the Tea party comes from. And so what conclusion may one draw?
>
> Don't be surprised if he switches the subject, refuses to answer, or cannot 
> answer, because he doesn't have reliable sources.
>
> --mkb
>
> On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:18 AM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>
>> Come on, Karen. There are more anti-war teapartiers than anti-war Democrats.
>>
>> Obama's co-option of the anti-war movement meant that there is no parallel 
>> among the Democrats to Ron Paul's movement of principled opposition to the 
>> war, nor to that of libertarians and paleoconservatives around the website 
>> Antiwar.com <http://Antiwar.com> or the journal /The American Conservative/.
>>
>> As an (actual) socialist, I deplore that fact.
>>
>> On 10/21/10 9:30 AM, Karen Medina wrote:
>>> I did notice that there were very few "constitutionalists" around
>>> before the scare tactic of "they are going to give health care to
>>> undocumented immigrants" became popular.
>>>
>>> Very few of the tea-partiers are in the anti-war movement.
>>>
>>> All I am saying is that it is easy to count the ones that are consistent.
>>>
>>> With the ones that are inconsistent, it is harder to count them, but
>>> it is easy to tell if they have read the constitution.
>>>
>>> -karen medina
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