[Peace-discuss] DN: NAACP Report Ties Tea Party to Militia and Racist Groups

Morton K. Brussel brussel at illinois.edu
Thu Oct 21 23:34:32 CDT 2010


And as usual, you fail to answer the question I posed, instead taking off on another idiotic gambit. 

--mkb


On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:18 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:

> Mort--
> 
> Make a list of anti-war Democrats - ones who are willing to vote against funding the current war, for example - not just those who say "I'm against war."  (Everyone is for peace - on their own terms.)
> 
> Send me your list, and I'll send you a longer one - beginning with Ron Paul's and Justin Raimondo's people - of those associated with the teapartiers who are against this war. 
> 
> I remember, from a math class long ago, that this was a way to prove the existence of multiple infinities, by a process of iteration...
> 
> Neither group is infinite, but they do differ in magnitude.  
> 
> Furthermore, the ones I refer to are organized - into Paul's R3VOLution, the Libertarian party, the paleoconservatives around several journals - while there is no organized Democratic party opposition to the Democratic president and administration.
> 
> Those of us with memories of a generation ago want to believe that there is an anti-war movement on the left wing of the Democratic party.
> 
> Unfortunately, no one's home.  It's been Obama's great contribution to the war effort to make that so.  --CGE 
> 
> 
> On 10/21/10 2:38 PM, Brussel wrote:
>> 
>> Karen,
>> 
>> Ask Carl where he gets his data (re. his first line below). Ask where most of the funding, who are the biggest contributors, and where most of the PR for the Tea party comes from. And so what conclusion may one draw?
>> 
>> Don't be surprised if he switches the subject, refuses to answer, or cannot answer, because he doesn't have reliable sources. 
>> 
>> --mkb
>> 
>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:18 AM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>> 
>>> Come on, Karen. There are more anti-war teapartiers than anti-war Democrats.
>>> 
>>> Obama's co-option of the anti-war movement meant that there is no parallel among the Democrats to Ron Paul's movement of principled opposition to the war, nor to that of libertarians and paleoconservatives around the website Antiwar.com or the journal The American Conservative. 
>>> 
>>> As an (actual) socialist, I deplore that fact. 
>>> 
>>> On 10/21/10 9:30 AM, Karen Medina wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I did notice that there were very few "constitutionalists" around
>>>> before the scare tactic of "they are going to give health care to
>>>> undocumented immigrants" became popular.
>>>> 
>>>> Very few of the tea-partiers are in the anti-war movement.
>>>> 
>>>> All I am saying is that it is easy to count the ones that are consistent.
>>>> 
>>>> With the ones that are inconsistent, it is harder to count them, but
>>>> it is easy to tell if they have read the constitution.
>>>> 
>>>> -karen medina
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