[Peace-discuss] DN: NAACP Report Ties Tea Party to Militia and Racist Groups
C. G. Estabrook
galliher at illinois.edu
Thu Oct 21 23:42:08 CDT 2010
You're getting a bit one-note here, Mort.
Why don't you tell me why you think that there are more anti-war Democrats than
anti-war teapartiers
- and where they are...
On 10/21/10 11:38 PM, Morton K. Brussel wrote:
> And yet another failure to answer the questions! Another sick gambit.
>
> --mkb
>
> On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:41 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>
>> To paraphrase, "Ask where most of the funding, who are the biggest
>> contributors, and where most of the PR for the Democratic party comes from.
>> And so what conclusion may one draw?"
>>
>> My favorite answer would be how BHO sang "The Ballad of Rich Richman" for his
>> supper last month. Jane Hamsher wrote, "I still can’t quite wrap my head
>> around it the fact that Obama thought it was a good idea, in midst of 9.6%
>> unemployment, and on the day after the census bureau announces that 1 in 7
>> Americans are living in poverty, to show up at the gated Connecticut mansion
>> of a guy named Rich Richman and tell a privileged few at a private $30,000 a
>> plate [sic] fundraiser [the following:]
>>
>> "...after being in this job for two years, I have never been more
>> optimistic about America. I am optimistic partly because we did some really
>> tough things that aren't always popular but were the right things to do.
>> Democrats, just congenitally, tend to get -- to see the glass as half empty.
>> [Laughter.] If we get an historic health care bill passed -- oh, well, the
>> public option wasn't there. If you get the financial reform bill passed --
>> then, well, I don't know about this particularly derivatives rule, I'm not
>> sure that I'm satisfied with that. And gosh, we haven't yet brought about
>> world peace and -- [laughter.] I thought that was going to happen quicker.
>> [Laughter.] You know who you are. [Laughter.]
>>
>> We should treat that remark with the contempt it deserves - and conversely.
>> --CGE
>>
>>
>> On 10/21/10 2:38 PM, Brussel wrote:
>>> Karen,
>>>
>>> Ask Carl where he gets his data (re. his first line below). Ask where most
>>> of the funding, who are the biggest contributors, and where most of the PR
>>> for the Tea party comes from. And so what conclusion may one draw?
>>>
>>> Don't be surprised if he switches the subject, refuses to answer, or cannot
>>> answer, because he doesn't have reliable sources.
>>>
>>> --mkb
>>>
>>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:18 AM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>>>
>>>> Come on, Karen. There are more anti-war teapartiers than anti-war Democrats.
>>>>
>>>> Obama's co-option of the anti-war movement meant that there is no parallel
>>>> among the Democrats to Ron Paul's movement of principled opposition to the
>>>> war, nor to that of libertarians and paleoconservatives around the website
>>>> Antiwar.com <http://Antiwar.com/> or the journal /The American Conservative/.
>>>>
>>>> As an (actual) socialist, I deplore that fact.
>>>>
>>>> On 10/21/10 9:30 AM, Karen Medina wrote:
>>>>> I did notice that there were very few "constitutionalists" around
>>>>> before the scare tactic of "they are going to give health care to
>>>>> undocumented immigrants" became popular.
>>>>>
>>>>> Very few of the tea-partiers are in the anti-war movement.
>>>>>
>>>>> All I am saying is that it is easy to count the ones that are consistent.
>>>>>
>>>>> With the ones that are inconsistent, it is harder to count them, but
>>>>> it is easy to tell if they have read the constitution.
>>>>>
>>>>> -karen medina
>
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