[Peace-discuss] [Peace] This list is for brief announcements only

[John W.]

This whole absurd thread began as a complaint that the PEACE list, as
opposed to the PEACE-DISCUSS list, is intended for announcements only, and
should be limited to such.  Do you STILL have no clue, David, that there are
TWO lists, and that there is such a thing as respect for your fellow
netizens?  No one gives a damn what you say on the PEACE-DISCUSS list.  It's
the PEACE list where the tiresome harangues of a few narcissistic pedants
are objectionable.

The supreme irony is that this current discussion is no longer even taking
place on the PEACE list.  Gahh!!!!!




On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 8:32 AM, David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Joy, in all honesty, I've made a habit of posting on this list things that I
> hope that others will find informative, and views that I've given some
> thought to and want to share with others, whether or not they wish to
> respond. I don't have a problem with it either way--the only problem I have
> is being told that I shouldn't say this or that, or that I don't allow for
> others to respond. That's up to them, I have no control. Again, if people
> object to the content of any postings, they can either respond to them or
> delete them. I've chosen to continue to subscribe to this list and
> contribute, because I like it and enjoy it. I'm not sure what the problem
> is, other than that some people might not post because they are afraid
> others won't agree with them. I can't do anything about that. This listserv
> should be for substantive, respectful, and meaningful debate.
>
> David
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* "jgeo61 at comcast.net" <jgeo61 at comcast.net>
> *To:* David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* Peace Discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> *Sent:* Sat, October 23, 2010 9:20:08 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] This list is for brief
> announcements only
>
> David,
>
> I am sorry that my poor knowledge of computers only included you in my
> response.  I have no problems with allowing the group to read and comment on
> my opinions.  My basic sense of fair play is shouting right now.  Why are no
> efforts taking place to encourage others to participate in discussions in
> place.  Please don't give me the line that everyone knows that they are
> welcome to participate at any time because there is clearly no evidence of
> this.  The discussions are limited to just a few people bantering back and
> forth with one another.  I want to hear from other members of this list
> serve whether or not they feel welcome to participate or even change the
> topic of discussion.  From you, David, I want to hear you start a discussion
> of your choice so that we have choices.
>
> Let's use this list serve for what it was meant for,
>
> Joy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Green" <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>
> To: jgeo61 at comcast.net
> Cc: "Peace Discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 4:03:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] This list is for brief announcements
> only
>
>  Joy,
>
> You took this off-list in your response to me. I am of course violating
> your privacy by putting it back on-list. But that's how I feel about it.
>
> I disagree with your comments about the list. My disagreements are so
> fundamental and so obvious, that all I can so is express my consternation
> and amazement at your assertions.
>
> The point of this list is for individuals to inform each other, and
> discuss/debate important issues. For the most part, I've always liked it
> just fine. When I haven't, I've done other things.
>
> If you have a response, please keep it on-list. Neither of our comments to
> each other have any meaning except in the context of this list and its
> readers.
>
> David
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* "jgeo61 at comcast.net" <jgeo61 at comcast.net>
> *To:* David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>
> *Sent:* Sat, October 23, 2010 1:19:22 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] This list is for brief
> announcements only
>
> David,
>
> My concerns stem from the creation of a large list serve for the benefit of
> many now being taken over by less than a handful of people.  What efforts
> are we doing to encourage new people to start their own discussion?  This
> group has simply created a platform for these folks to banter back and forth
> with each other.  I resent being given the option to leave the list and I am
> not sure why I should need to.  Is it because it is out of control?  Is it
> because we should just throw up our hands and say "boys will be boys"?  I
> know it cannot be because this is a free flowing exchange of opinions..it
> just isn't.  We cannot hide the large purple elephant in the room here.
>
> I agree that is issue has reared its ugly head on more than one occasion
> and I think it is time to meet to discuss fully what is the purpose and
> intent of this list serve.
>
> Joy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Green" <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>
> To: jgeo61 at comcast.net
> Cc: "Peace Discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 12:44:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] This list is for brief announcements
> only
>
>  Joy, that's just ridiculous, and I resent it. This space is for those who
> have substantive comments, and for others to substantively disagree with
> those comments. You're offended by the content of some comments. You're
> welcome to say why that's the case. Please don't try to silence those that
> you don't agree with. If you're not interested in what some people have to
> say, then you can resign from the list, or only selectively open the
> messages from those that you tend to agree with.
>
> David Green
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* "jgeo61 at comcast.net" <jgeo61 at comcast.net>
> *To:* E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag>
> *Cc:* Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>; Brian Dolinar <
> briandolinar at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sat, October 23, 2010 9:51:10 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] This list is for brief
> announcements only
>
> Wayne,
>
> All you want is to have a captured audience to listen to your
> pontifications.  Thanks to you this medium has turned into a private chat
> room instead of the public space that it was created for.  It is also
> evident that you do not read other e mails as they are asking you, more
> gently that I intend to, to change your venue.  Wayne, meet somewhere else,
> in person and chat to your hearts content; I could care less.  I am tired of
> being held captive by your tiny group of wannabees and I will express my
> views that you need to be contained.
>
> Joy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "E. Wayne Johnson" <ewj at pigs.ag>
> To: jgeo61 at comcast.net
> Cc: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu>, "Peace-discuss" <
> peace-discuss at anti-war.net>, "Brian Dolinar" <briandolinar at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 5:21:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] This list is for brief announcements
> only
>
> Joy
> Since the hindrance of free speech and discourse are important part
> of the US government's strategy to stifle opposition to the war, I am
> surprised that you are so interested in control on this list.
>
> "I am expected to receive this trash in my inbox on a daily basis?"
> *Poor Baby.*
>
> We need more hooliganism and fewer schoolmarm-ism if we are to
> ever overthrow the war-mongering.
>
> Wayne
>
>
> On 10/23/2010 4:53 AM, jgeo61 at comcast.net wrote:
>
> What is this all about?  I am expected to receive this trash in my inbox on
> a daily basis?  My insight for the day is GET OFF THIS LISTSERVE!!  Take
> your PRIVATE foul mouthed chats SOMEWHERE ELSE!  I do not want to be an
> audience member any further to the lot of you hooligans.
>
> JOY GEORGE
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu> <galliher at illinois.edu>
> To: "Peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at anti-war.net><peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
> Cc: "Brian Dolinar" <briandolinar at gmail.com> <briandolinar at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 2:58:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] This list is for brief announcements
> only
>
> [Someone writing as "Brian Dolinar, Ph.D." has an insightful political
> comment to make;
> it will undoubtedly add to the clarity of out joint considerations.  Viz.,
> and to wit--]
>
> On 10/22/10 8:53 AM, Brian Dolinar wrote:
> > FUCK OFF!
>
> >
>
> > BD
>
>
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