[Peace-discuss] Fwd: Richard Dawkins Furious At Pope For TyingGodless To Nazis

E.Wayne Johnson ewj at pigs.ag
Sun Sep 19 21:31:00 CDT 2010


Most importantly, the Nazis were German.

That fact explains the lion's share of the variance.


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        Have at it, folks.
         --Jenifer

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          Richard Dawkins Furious At Pope For Tying Godless To Nazis

          Posted in Liberaland by Alan • September 17, 2010,

          Pope Benedict’s speech to Queen Elizabeth in England praised how
          Britain fought “Nazi tyranny that wished to eradicate God from
          society,” prompting one of the world’s best known atheists, Richard
          Dawkins, to proclaim it  “a despicable outrage.” What set off Dawkins
          is this paragraph:

          “Even in our own lifetime, we can recall how Britain and her leaders
          stood against a Nazi tyranny that wished to eradicate God from society
          and denied our common humanity to many, especially the Jews, who were
          thought unfit to live. I also recall the regime’s attitude to
          Christian pastors and religious who spoke the truth in love, opposed
          the Nazis and paid for that opposition with their lives. As we reflect
          on the sobering lessons of the atheist extremism of the twentieth
          century, let us never forget how the exclusion of God, religion and
          virtue from public life leads ultimately to a truncated vision of man
          and of society and thus to a “reductive vision of the person and his
          destiny” (Caritas in Veritate, 29).”

          Dawkins responds:

          Even if Hitler had been an atheist, his political philosophy was not
          based upon atheism and had no connection with atheism. Hitler was
          arguably (and by his own account) a Roman Catholic. In any case he
          enjoyed the open support of many of the most senior catholic clergy in
          Germany and the less demonstrative support of Pope Pius XII. Even if
          Hitler had been an atheist (he certainly was not), the rank and file
          Germans who carried out the attempted extermination of the Jews were
          Christians, almost to a man: either Catholic or Lutheran, primed to
          their anti-Semitism by centuries of Catholic propaganda about
          ‘Christ-killers’ and by Martin Luther’s own seething hatred of the
          Jews. To mention Ratzinger’s membership of the Hitler Youth might be
          thought to be fighting dirty, but my feeling is that the gloves are
          off after this disgraceful paragraph by the pope.

          Dawkins is urging a letter-writing campaign to British media in protest, adding:

          I am incandescent with rage at the sycophantic BBC coverage, and the
          sight of British toadies bowing and scraping to this odious man. I
          thought he was bad before. This puts the lid on it.

       




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