[Peace-discuss] Peace-discuss Digest, Vol 95, Issue 20

Carl G. Estabrook galliher at illinois.edu
Tue Dec 13 22:42:43 CST 2011 

On Dec 13, 2011, at 11:47 AM, E. Wayne Johnson wrote:

> I am not in favour of such senseless acts of violence.
> (I am not sure that I am totally against "sensible" acts of  
> violence...,
> such as riding down birches, or tearing down walls.)
>
The Frost is on the punking...

> Xenophobia is not necessarily a mental illness but it is irrational.
> All phobias are irrational.
> (There might, paradoxically, be a place for Zeno-phobia if one is so  
> moved.)
>
Zeno-phobia = fear that motion is (not) an illusion? fear of Italo  
Svevo's novel?

> For every one that "goes postal" and acts on impulses there are  
> likely hundreds who do
> not spring into action.

They're in poste restante...
>
> The tendency for people to form tribes, ethnic groups, cliques, and  
> sects (sectarian and non-sectarian)
> seems to be common/natural/comfortable.  I don't believe that such  
> behaviour is
> going to be stopped by passing a law against it or calling it a  
> "hate crime".
>
Altho' it seems to be a way to dis-sect a thought-crime...

> There are lots of people in the usa who dont like "furners".
> Rural America is practically characterized by such thinking but not  
> such action.
> Are they criminals?  Are they not accomplices to "hate crimes"?
>
> Is it a hate crime to hate those who commit hate crimes?
> Is it a hate crime to incarcerate "hate criminals"?
> Just because they're "different"?
>
> Should diversity extend to xenophobes the same as it does to the  
> kedesophobes?
>
Do kedesophobes really fear hate or simply hear fate? Are they  
philophiliacs? (Or is that a suburb in PA?)
> *
> ... love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
> gentleness, and self–control. There is no law against these things!

As il maestro di color che sanno says, there's a natural law for them.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 12/13/2011 10:59 PM, Karen Medina wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jesse,
>>
>> A vigil against hate crimes would be a good thing.
>>
>> This particular incident is more likely a case of severe mental
>> illness. I'd be happy to support campaigns to deal with mental
>> illnesses and for Illinois to raise taxes for this issue.
>>
>> We do need to awaken campaigns of cross-cultural education, against
>> xenophobia, and joint programs with other groups. But not in
>> particular to take on this case.
>>
>> -karen medina
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Jesse Phillippe <japhillippe at gmail.com 
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> What about doing an action targeting this hate crime? Is anyone  
>>> interested
>>> in doing that or have any ideas about what to do?  We could  
>>> contact student
>>> groups, CAIR, the Indian Student Association (I'm presuming he was  
>>> Indian.),
>>> the Occupy group, etc...
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 1:17 PM, <peace-discuss-request at lists.chambana.net 
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>>>>   1. I looked up the stabbing victim's faculty bio (Karen Medina)
>>>>
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>>>> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 13:17:37 -0600
>>>> From: Karen Medina <kmedina67 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: Peace-discuss List <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>>>> Subject: [Peace-discuss] I looked up the stabbing victim's  
>>>> faculty bio
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>>>> [ I looked up the recent alleged hate-crime/stabbing victim's  
>>>> faculty
>>>> bio and thought I would share, simply because the news stories  
>>>> are all
>>>> saying the victim was non-white. I've included a history of his
>>>> education (Ph.D. University of California-Berkeley and M.Ec.
>>>> University of Western Australia), recent work (2009 to present at  
>>>> the
>>>> U of I; University of Connecticut before that), and a photo. On a
>>>> separate line of thought, I am wondering if the alleged attacker  
>>>> has a
>>>> history of mental illness. -karen medina ]
>>>>
>>>> === a re-ordering of the news stories so that they make more  
>>>> sense to
>>>> me at least ===
>>>> A witness told police that the men (the attacker and the victim)  
>>>> were
>>>> both seated in the waiting area for the train in the Champaign
>>>> transportation terminal second floor when one man, a 23-year-old  
>>>> from
>>>> Fithian Illinois -- Joshua Scaggs, suddenly jumped up and shouted  
>>>> that
>>>> this was his country and he attacked the other man, Anurudha Udeni
>>>> Dhammika Dharmapala -- a 41-year-old law professor at the  
>>>> University
>>>> of Illinois who was waiting for the train to Chicago.
>>>>
>>>> Scaggs appeared to be choking Dharmapala as he then forced the  
>>>> victim
>>>> to the floor. But as the witness pulled them apart, the witness
>>>> noticed that the attacker was holding a utility knife and the  
>>>> victim
>>>> was bleeding. Dharmapala sustained about a six-inch cut on his  
>>>> throat
>>>> which bled profusely. Police also found another folding knife in
>>>> Scaggs' pocket.
>>>>
>>>> Although police arrested Scaggs for the offense of hate crime,
>>>> Assistant State's Attorney Steve Ziegler opted not to file it  
>>>> because
>>>> the other charges carry heavier penalties and he's confident he can
>>>> prove the aggravated battery based on the information he has. The
>>>> Champaign County state's attorney's office has filed three felony
>>>> charges against Scaggs. Evidently the charges are two charges of
>>>> aggravated battery and an attempted murder charge. The attempted
>>>> murder charge is a Class X felony carrying a mandatory prison  
>>>> sentence
>>>> of between 6 and 30 years.
>>>> ====== bio =====
>>>> Dhammika Dharmapala
>>>> Professor
>>>>
>>>> Ph.D. University of California-Berkeley
>>>> M.Ec. University of Western Australia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dhammika Dharmapala joined the Illinois faculty in the fall of 2009
>>>> from the University of Connecticut Department of Economics.  
>>>> Professor
>>>> Dharmapala is an authority in tax policy, public economics, law and
>>>> economics, and political economics. He recently co-authored the
>>>> article, "Taxing the Bandit Kings" in the Yale Law Journal Pocket
>>>> Part. He was recently named to the National Tax Association board  
>>>> of
>>>> directors.
>>>>
>>>> Professor Dharmapala earned his master's degree in economics from  
>>>> the
>>>> University of Western Australia and his Ph.D. in economics from the
>>>> University of California-Berkeley. He served as an international
>>>> research fellow at the Oxford University Centre for Business  
>>>> Taxation
>>>> and a visiting professor of business economics and public policy at
>>>> the University of Michigan.
>>>>
>>>> Prior to arriving at Connecticut in 2002, Professor Dharmapala  
>>>> was a
>>>> postdoctoral fellow at Harvard University and a John M. Olin  
>>>> Visiting
>>>> Fellow in Law and Economics at Georgetown University Law School. He
>>>> serves on the editorial board of the Review of Law and Economics.
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