[Peace-discuss] Fwd: [HumanRights] A Palestinian in Deutschland

"E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森" ewj at pigs.ag
Mon May 30 02:22:27 CDT 2011 

Actually I had no idea that you were from Connecticut, Mort.

I probably am looking for autonomy for individuals to what ever
possible/practical extent.

Actually state and local governments can be quite tyrannical and
authoritarian.



On 05/30/11 12:16, Morton K. Brussel wrote:
>>  they have also resisted the authoritarian
>> nanny state erosion with would force them to proceed at a snail's 
>> pace on
>> the Autobahn.  I can't help wondering why.
>
> That's what their high powered expensive cars are for.
> I assume they do have speed limits for non-autobahn roads.
>
> I 'm from Connecticut. Why pick on this admittedly mildly liberal 
> (despite Lieberman) little state?
>
> It seems like you're a states rights guy. States have rules also—you 
> can't escape them. Perhaps every city , county and village should have 
> autonomy…?
>
>
> On May 29, 2011, at 6:32 PM, E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森 wrote:
>
>> All interesting observations.
>>
>> I can't avoid noticing that the Germans not only developed the 
>> technology for
>> high speed automobile transit but they have also resisted the 
>> authoritarian
>> nanny state erosion with would force them to proceed at a snail's 
>> pace on
>> the Autobahn.  I can't help wondering why.
>>
>> Perhaps it is because Germany is a "small sovereign state"
>> and can decide it's own destiny rather than
>> be beholden to the whims of its (distant) neighbors the way that folks
>> in Connecticut seek to control how Arizonans live?
>>
>> "Let a country be small and it's people few" - Lao Zi
>>
>>
>>
>> I heard a certain Buckley (the un-hip Wm., not Lord...) say that the 
>> Germans possess some
>> fundamental ethos which accounts for their tendency for development 
>> and prosperity.
>>
>> I also heard a lady give a talk once in which she said that the 
>> fundamental reason
>> for the negative aggressive character of the German people is that 
>> they consume
>> blood sausages.
>>
>> Actually it seems rather racist for Palestinians to act as they do
>> despite their being the sole proprietors of truth.
>>
>> Delusions of Judenstaat seem to be common.
>> But one would as well try to resist Tolstoy.
>>
>> Bring me my Chariot of fire...
>> I will not cease from Mental Fight,
>> Nor shall my Sword sleep in my hand
>> Till we have built Jerusalem
>> Here on this empty gas can.
>>
>> (apologies to Milton Berle)
>>
>>
>> On 2011-5-30 5:26, Morton K. Brussel wrote:
>>> A determined American-Palestinian. It's his American citizenship 
>>> that keeps him relatively safe in the West Bank. His theme is 
>>> emotional, constant and repetitive, but that is necessary.
>>>
>>> --mkb
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>> *From: *"Mazin Qumsiyeh" <mazin at qumsiyeh.org 
>>>> <mailto:mazin at qumsiyeh.org>>
>>>> *Date: *May 29, 2011 6:50:46 AM CDT
>>>> *To: *Mort Brussel <brussel at illinois.edu <mailto:brussel at illinois.edu>>
>>>> *Cc: *Human Rights Newsletter <humanrights at lists.qumsiyeh.org 
>>>> <mailto:humanrights at lists.qumsiyeh.org>>
>>>> *Subject: **[HumanRights] A Palestinian in Deutschland*
>>>>
>>>> A Palestinian in Deutschland
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <http://popular-resistance.blogspot.com/2011/05/palestinian-in-deutchland.ht
>>>> ml>
>>>> http://popular-resistance.blogspot.com/2011/05/palestinian-in-deutchland.htm
>>>> l
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At speeds that at one time reached 208 km/hour we drove the length of
>>>> historic Palestine in about three hours on the Autobahn between 
>>>> Fulda and
>>>> Munich.  Idyllic villages appeared occasionally between the endless 
>>>> green
>>>> and fertile fields. I was with three men who had idealism and youth and
>>>> energy. Six of us had slept last night on floors and couches in the 
>>>> student
>>>> service center of The University of Applied Sciences in Fulda after 
>>>> a talk
>>>> to some 50 students and faculty.  Then onto Munich, where I gave a 
>>>> talk to
>>>> some 100 people.  Tomorrow I go to Berlin, then Stockholm, then 
>>>> Rome. It is
>>>> strange to be in this land hearing the language that reminded me of my
>>>> graduate career (I studied German reading as part of my needed 
>>>> skills for
>>>> the research on mammals).  But it also reminded me that this is the 
>>>> language
>>>> of all early Zionist leaders. The vision of a Jewish state freed 
>>>> from its
>>>> original non-Jewish inhabitants was articulated so clearly in those 
>>>> early
>>>> writings and protocols of the World Zionist Congress. "Der 
>>>> Judenstaat" by
>>>> Theodor Herzl remains a classic.  Ironically, the fastest growing 
>>>> Jewish
>>>> population in the world today is right here in Germany.  I wondered why
>>>> among those prospering in Germany of all places cling to the lies of
>>>> Zionism. But Germany is a land of contradictions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is not only a contradiction between the modern reality of today 
>>>> and the
>>>> horrors of WWII. Here is a modern democratic country where free 
>>>> speech and
>>>> historical examination is open but it is forbidden and punishable 
>>>> to examine
>>>> the historical record of the Jewish holocaust.  Here where the 
>>>> economy is
>>>> booming and the country beautiful but the government seems content 
>>>> to obey
>>>> whatever is dictated by the US State Department (itself obeying 
>>>> orders from
>>>> Tel Aviv).  Here where the lessons of violations of human rights 
>>>> are learnt
>>>> well but exceptions are made for the massive violations of human 
>>>> rights of
>>>> millions of Palestinians.   In my answer to a Zionist at Fulda, I 
>>>> stated
>>>> that he is engaged in Nakba denial and that this is just as bad as 
>>>> denial of
>>>> the Jewish holocaust (a crime in Germany).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In the last few years, I gave talks to tens of thousands of people in
>>>> hundreds of cities around the world.  I had interactions with 
>>>> hundreds of
>>>> Zionists, many who have worked hard to prevent my appearance but 
>>>> who then
>>>> had to come and try to make their points.  Not one of those 
>>>> Zionists was
>>>> honest; their talking points being the same tired ones intended to 
>>>> deflect
>>>> attention from and not have to deal with facts of ethnic cleansing,
>>>> colonization and land theft. How do you justify the largest post WWII
>>>> refugee population and sleep at night?  The desperate attempts involve
>>>> regurgitating easily dispelled myths.  In all cases, they try to 
>>>> use and
>>>> abuse Jewish history in Europe to garner sympathy.  But even this 
>>>> lost its
>>>> effectiveness as a fig-leaf to cover for war crimes and crimes against
>>>> humanity directed at a people who had nothing to do with what 
>>>> happened in
>>>> Europe. Even here in Germany and despite a guilt complex, facts seem to
>>>> trump the Zionist perfidy.  It is not even possible anymore to hide the
>>>> Nazi-Zionist collaboration of the 1930s and early 1940s let alone 
>>>> to hide
>>>> what they did to 12 million Palestinian natives.  It is not 
>>>> possible to hide
>>>> the fact that Zionists and Jew-haters share the same goal of 
>>>> attributing to
>>>> Jews what Zionists and their racist apartheid state is doing.  Hence
>>>> Zionists insist on using Jewish symbols on their racist state.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> People around the world are now aware of how damaging Zionism is 
>>>> and was
>>>> (including to Jews around the world). How do you justify the fact 
>>>> that a
>>>> beautiful ancient land was raped and pillaged and cleansed of its 
>>>> natives to
>>>> be transformed to that last apartheid system on earth? Most know that
>>>> Zionism is to Judaism what Crusaderism was to Christianity and 
>>>> BinLadenism
>>>> to Islam. What Zionists promised fellow Jews was safety and 
>>>> security but not
>>>> morality or justice.  But even in this simple promise they lied. 
>>>>  Because,
>>>> as an ex-Zionist once remarked: a Jew in Tel Aviv today is 
>>>> certainly less
>>>> safe than a Jew in Berlin or anywhere else in the world.  So while 
>>>> Zionists
>>>> try to justify themselves to non-Jews based on myths about the 
>>>> history of
>>>> Palestine, they try to convince fellow-Jews by using the primal human
>>>> emotion of fear (in this case of the goyim/gentiles).  But even that
>>>> emotional tribalism is long outdated.  More and more Jews are 
>>>> seeing that
>>>> safety and prosperity do not arise from oppressing others or from 
>>>> replacing
>>>> the small ghettos in Europe with the large ghetto called the 
>>>> "Jewish state".
>>>> Germans had learned the lesson that repression and oppression of 
>>>> others does
>>>> not work long term. Other people have learned this lesson. 
>>>>  Zionists will
>>>> invariably have to internalize this lesson just like many 
>>>> anti-Zionist Jews
>>>> have internalized it.  Only then will these Jews rise "out of the 
>>>> ashes"
>>>> (the title of a great book by Jewish Theologian Marc Ellis.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In the meantime, our tasks as Palestinians and all people of 
>>>> conscience is
>>>> to assess our own roles and expand them to tell truth to power and 
>>>> to engage
>>>> in resistance to tyranny for example by using boycotts, 
>>>> divestments, and
>>>> sanctions. That is what the many people I talked to in Fulda, in 
>>>> Munich, and
>>>> those I will talk to in the next few days in Berlin, Stockholm, and 
>>>> Rome are
>>>> doing.  As the global intifada unfolds, we collectively shed apathy and
>>>> reclaim our humanity.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I got interviewed over 8 times in the past week about supposed 
>>>> political
>>>> developments (speeches and plans to go to the UN).  Questions about 
>>>> what
>>>> Obama, Netanyahu, and Palestinian "leaders" had to say.  My answers 
>>>> are that
>>>> what these folks say is very predictable and why would we want to 
>>>> waste time
>>>> dealing with it.  Netanyahu is a colonialist racist and can only 
>>>> say what
>>>> all colonialist racists have to say.  Obama is a politician 
>>>> beholden to the
>>>> lobby and can only try to cajole the lobby as he tries desperately 
>>>> to hide
>>>> the reality of US hypocrisy and war mongering.  And many prominent
>>>> Palestinians have given up on the liberation struggle a long time 
>>>> ago and
>>>> replaced it with the struggle to hold on to their seats.  None of them
>>>> really take into account people power.    See the article by Ali 
>>>> Abunimah
>>>> "What happened to Palestinian "reconciliation"?" and especially the 
>>>> three
>>>> links within them that show how some key leaders of the Palestinian
>>>> authority (Fatah) had engaged in what would be considered treasonous
>>>> behavior in other circumstances
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <http://electronicintifada.net/blog/ali-abunimah/what-happened-palestinian-r
>>>> econciliation>
>>>> http://electronicintifada.net/blog/ali-abunimah/what-happened-palestinian-re
>>>> conciliation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Reviews of my book on Popular Resistance in Palestine:
>>>>
>>>> By Theresa Wolfwood
>>>> <http://palestinechronicle.com/view_article_details.php?id=16885>
>>>> http://palestinechronicle.com/view_article_details.php?id=16885
>>>>
>>>> By Asa Winstanley
>>>> <http://electronicintifada.net/content/book-review-popular-resistance-popula
>>>> r-history/9936>
>>>> http://electronicintifada.net/content/book-review-popular-resistance-popular
>>>> -history/9936
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Open letter to the people of Palestine from South African 
>>>> theologian Dr.
>>>> Farid Esack
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1skU_nVaMl8>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1skU_nVaMl8
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Join us in Palestine July 8-16 <http://palestinejn.org/>
>>>> http://palestinejn.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mazin Qumsiyeh, PhD
>>>>
>>>> <http://qumsiyeh.org/> http://qumsiyeh.org
>>>>
>>>>
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