[Peace-discuss] I want you/She's so heavy.

E. Wayne Johnson ewj at pigsqq.org
Sun Aug 26 22:00:38 UTC 2012


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refused entry, or have one's microphone
turned off, or otherwise be squelched, sussed, or neutralized, if 
certain rules are not obeyed.


On 8/27/2012 5:40 AM, langenheim, ralph l jr wrote:
>
> What, pray tell, are the limits to allowable debate?  So much for 
> freedom of s]eech and opinion. Ralph Langenheim
>
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> [peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] on behalf of E. Wayne 
> Johnson [ewj at pigsqq.org]
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 25, 2012 10:08 AM
> *To:* Estabrook, Carl G
> *Cc:* 'Peace-discuss'
> *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] I want you/She's so heavy.
>
> I was quite impressed with Taymor also.
>
> Across the Universe is really an excellent treatment of the Beatles 
> catalogue, and the musicians and singers are top notch.
>
> The symbolism in the movie is wonderful.  Interesting how well it 
> works without being corny.
>
> On 8/25/2012 9:56 PM, Carl G. Estabrook wrote:
>> Lighter but heavy (..., man) as well. One of the few serious attempts 
>> to make art of "the Sixties" - and say something about what's now 
>> universally condemned within the limits of allowable debate. (See B. 
>> Obama, "Mendacity of Hope.")
>>
>> Taymor is excellent. Her Shakespeare films - Titus (1999), with 
>> Anthony Hopkins, and The Tempest (2010), with Helen Mirren - are 
>> under-appreciated, and Across the Universe was made between them, 
>> with Shakespeare's history plays in mind, it seems. It's a shame she 
>> ever got involved with the Broadway Spiderman: she was I think trying 
>> to do something of the mixing of pop culture and serious comment 
>> that's involved here:
>>
>> "Across the Universe is a 2007 musical romantic drama film directed 
>> by Julie Taymor, produced by Revolution Studios, and distributed 
>> by Columbia Pictures. The film's plot is centered around songs by The 
>> Beatles. The script is based on an original story credited to 
>> Taymor, Dick Clement and Ian La Frenais. It incorporates 34 
>> compositions originally written by members of The Beatles. The film 
>> stars Evan Rachel Wood, Jim Sturgess, Joe Anderson and T. V. Carpio, 
>> and introduces Dana Fuchs and Martin Luther McCoy as actors. Cameo 
>> appearances are made by Bono, Eddie Izzard, Joe Cocker, Salma 
>> Hayek amongst others."
>>
>> --CGE
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2012, at 6:28 AM, "E. Wayne Johnson" <ewj at pigsqq.org 
>> <mailto:ewj at pigsqq.org>> wrote:
>>
>>> On the lighter side -
>>>
>>> This scene from Julie Taymor's 2007 film Across the Universe seems 
>>> fairly clever to me.
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX6dHWyqwNo
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