[Peace-discuss] Fw: Fwd: Hate will not prevail in C-U

David Green davegreen84 at yahoo.com
Wed Feb 15 08:30:20 CST 2012


http://will.illinois.edu/focus/monthly/2012/02/
 
You can listen to his interview with David Inge. Neither there nor on Saturday morning did I find any evidence for any form of anti-semitism. Apparently, he feels that Jews during the time of Jesus would have been better off if they had joined him in challenging the Romans. That I suppose is a pretty controversial thing to say, and perhaps the historical counter-factual that leads from that is also controversial. He refers to a history of Jewish exceptionalism, that is now on display in a negative way in Israel. But given his own background, his informed understanding of what's going on in I/P, and his genuine concern for Israeli Jews, there's nothing anti-semitic about any of this.
 
DG


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>"...Hillel is working to address this visit with U of I's administration and the other groups that sponsored the visit..."
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>That's a threat of censorship and suppression of views on a university campus that is thoroughly McCarthyist. There should not be less free speech in the university than there is in society as a whole; if you don't believe in free speech for ideas you despise, you don't believe in it at all.
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>Instead of trying to prevent the expression of Mr. Braverman's views, we should be setting out and evaluating them.  Is a transcript of his talk or an article by him available?  --CGE
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>On Feb 14, 2012, at 9:05 PM, David Green wrote:
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>> As Braverman said on Saturday morning, the battle is joined.
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>> This absurd statement deserves a response..
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>> Dear Christopher,
>> Last Friday and Saturday, anti-Israel activist Mark Braverman visited the University of Illinois and the Champaign-Urbana community. Hillel had been aware of the visit and had been working in partnership with other organizations to mitigate its impact. But as familiar as we were with the nature of the things he is fond of saying, we were still stunned by the intensity of Mr. Braverman's remarks against the State of Israel, the American Jewish community and Judaism itself. The hate rhetoric adopted by Mr. Braverman is unacceptable and it does not belong in our community.
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>> I am writing to assure you that Hillel is working to address this visit with U of I's administration and the other groups that sponsored the visit. At the same time, we are concerned with the well-being of our students, some of whom felt personally attacked by Mr. Braverman's vicious words. All of our staff is available to talk to you at any time if you feel the need - this is our number one priority right now. Just contact one of us by phone, email or facebook, and we will make the time to meet with you.
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>> Hate will not determine how we live in Champaign-Urbana!
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>> Le'Shalom (in peace)
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