[Peace-discuss] [sf-core] Ron Paul, Electoral Politics, and the Workers' Movement

[Jenifer Cartwright]

   THANKS, Mort -- yes, Yes, and YES re yr statements -- spot on re Ron Paul -- it's obvious from listening to him (and other libertarians) that "market correction" is the old "collateral damage."       I also agree that it's nice to have a real forum for Paul's no-pulled-punches view of US aggression and empire building... and like you, I'm hopeful that Obama and his handlers have enuff smarts and cajones to pay attention to how well Paul's statements resonate w/ the very voters who helped Obama get elected in 2008, hoping that was "change" they could believe it.     That said, I hadn't heard the issue debated before and was looking forward to hearing Reimann speak. I'll keep doing what I need to do to get connected.     
--- On Mon, 1/23/12, Brussel Morton K. <mkb3 at mac.com> wrote:Most of us already know that Ron Paul is a reactionary on economic policies, essentially isolationist in foreign policy (although I'm not sure about how he would treat oil and resource extraction corporations, e.g., how to protect them for our national interest), and a "libertarian" on certain civil rights, (excepting women's choice issues)—i.e., let anyone do mostly what they want, discriminate, carry guns wherever, get rid of public education, any social or health safety net,  ….  On the other hand, It might not be a bad idea to advertise/promote his anti-war foreign policy statements vis-a vis Obama and the other Repubs in the interest of popular education, but how could anyone with a humane social concern domestically ever vote for him? The havoc and misery his domestic policies would entail is inestimable. As Carl's opponent, John Reimann, in Dave Johnson's program noted, a dying off
 (call it murder?) of large segments of our populations could be expected in such an advent. Like in Russia after the USSR was dissolved. If you look at the details, it is simply crazy. 
My impressions from that fascinating program. 
--mkb


On Jan 23, 2012, at 5:50 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:















 



  


    And here's an account of what John was upset about: <http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/12/matt-stoller-why-ron-paul-challenges-liberals.html 

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On Jan 21, 2012, at 7:43 PM, C. G. ESTABROOK wrote:



>

> On Saturday 21 January, David Johnson, Bob Paleczny, Bill Gorrell,  

> and Tom Thomas hosted a debate - "Ron Paul, Electoral Politics, and  

> the Workers' Movement" - between Carl Estabrook of News from Neptune  

> and labor activist John Reimann on the Illinois World Labor Hour.

>

> Thanks to David who arranged it, and Bob, who made it available  

> online. The first hour of the show is at <http://radio4all.net/index.php/program/57180 

> > - the debate begins in the last third; the second hour, containing  

> the majority of the debate, is at <http://radio4all.net/index.php/program/57182 

> >.

>

>

> --CGE

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