[Peace-discuss] [CentralILJwJ] Fw: [CCDS Members] Quote of the Day

Claudia Lennhoff claudia at shout.net
Mon Jul 2 03:04:49 UTC 2012


Dear All,

Gene, I agree with you.

For what it's worth, I believe that you can be both a single payer 
supporter/activist, and someone who ALSO sees how the health reform law 
will benefit millions of people, AND how it will help pave the way for 
universal health care and even single payer in our country (both through 
the content of the law, and also through the community organizing 
possibilities implementation of health reform presents).

Saying that the ACA will benefit people in real ways does not mean you 
should lose your single-payer supporter/activist credentials. It just 
means that you realistically understand that millions of people in our 
country, and thousands in our cities and county locally, WILL have their 
lives improved by having access to insurance and therefore to health care.

I see people's lives and health improve every single day when they 
qualify for health insurance -- whether it's Medicaid or Medicare 
(socialized health insurance) or whether it's a private for-profit plan 
such as Health Alliance, by virtue of gaining coverage through a new job.

Illinois' own great programs (that have now been slashed in the budget 
butchery), FamilyCare and All Kids, offered both public and private 
health coverage (private was subsidized), and those programs DID help 
thousands of people, the same way that the ACA will. I didn't see the 
single-payer activists (and I am one) up in arms about those programs 
when IL created and implemented them. I saw first hand how those 
programs improved the lives of parents and their children.

Also, I work closely with the activists and advocates in Mass. who 
played a big role in getting that program up and going (and many of them 
are single-payer activists), and I personally know quite a few residents 
of Mass. who have benefited from the health coverage they got because of 
that state's program. Those benefits are real and do improve people's lives.

Is the ACA the way I would have designed universal health care for the 
United States? No, of course not. I would have designed universal health 
care as a single payer system -- a modification and expansion of 
Medicare (Medicare for All!).

However, it is important to note that even Medicare relies on private 
health insurance companies. There is no big central Medicare office 
where Medicare processes all of its health insurance claims. That 
processing of Part A, Part B, etc. claims takes place through private 
health insurance companies that bid for, and get the federal government 
contracts for processing claims in the various regions of the country. 
So, even with the hallowed Medicare program, there IS a role for private 
health insurance companies within that program.

That's a bit of a digression.

Despite my critiques and disappointments with the health reform law 
(namely that it so heavily benefits and depends upon private health 
insurance companies, and continues to commodify health care and health 
insurance and retain the profit motive in those), I DO believe that the 
law DOES and WILL provide very important benefits to the people of our 
nation, and the people in our community.

It's not helpful to just say that the ACA is bad, just because it's not 
single-payer. In fact, understanding the ACA inside and out, in a real 
way, helps us advocates see the opportunities for pushing for 
single-payer, or pushing for non-profit insurance opportunities which 
could be transformative for our health care system.

Here are some facts about the health reform law:

1. More people WILL be insured because of this bill.

2. More people ARE ALREADY insured because of this bill -- for example:

- adult children (up to age 26) who have been able to get on to their 
parents' health insurance;

- children who insurance companies could no longer deny coverage for 
pre-existing conditions;

- people who got to keep their health insurance when they got diagnosed 
with a serious illness because health insurance companies are now 
prohibited from rescinding coverage;

- people who can not get insurance coverage through the states' 
pre-existing conditions health insurance plans for the "uninsurable" 
(Illinois' plan is at: http://insurance.illinois.gov/ipxp/)

3. Health insurance coverage will expand tremendously in 2014 for 
millions of previously uninsured individuals. Some will get health 
insurance through Medicaid (when categorical eligibility will be done 
away with, and people will qualify solely on the basis of their income 
-- for example, single, non-disabled adults will be able to qualify). 
Others will get private health insurance, and many will get that private 
health insurance subsidized so that it will be affordable for them. The 
subsidy will be a sliding scale subsidy available to folks who have 
incomes of up to 400% of the federal poverty level.

Here is a link to the health insurance premium subsidy calculator:
http://healthreform.kff.org/SubsidyCalculator.aspx

4. Non-profit health insurance CO-OPs (encouraged and supported under 
the ACA), have tremendous potential to transform the health care system 
and health care markets, to move them away from the dominance of 
profit-driven systems
(see this opinion piece by Wendell Potter:
http://njtoday.net/2012/05/29/opinion-could-nonprofit-health-insurance-plans-be-the-real-reformers/)

Lastly, as a community organizer, I want to say that being knowledgeable 
of the ACA and helping people enroll in insurance, provides a foundation 
for future organizing and for building support for single-payer health care.

If you continually tell people that the ACA is a piece of crap and that 
they are being hoodwinked even as they live the new benefits they've 
gotten, how much credibility will you have? Versus, how much credibility 
will you have when you say, "this is good, but there's an even better 
way, and you can help..."

The Supreme Court decision was a tremendous victory. Gene is right -- it 
is a step in the right direction (an awkward, complicated, lurching 
step, but still a step), and we must use it.

Those are my 2 cents (times 1,000). I won't respond to this thread of 
e-mails; just wanted to weigh in, as someone who works on this day in 
and day out and has been fighting for single-payer and universal health 
care for lots and lots of years.

Sincerely,
Claudia Lennhoff, Executive Director
Champaign County Health Care Consumers



On 7/1/12 7:28 PM, Gene Vanderport wrote:
> More people are insured b'c of this bill than there were insured without
> it.  It is a step in the right direction, if we use it so.......
>
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> *Sent:* Sun, July 1, 2012 7:24:18 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [CentralILJwJ] Fw: [CCDS Members] Quote of the Day
>
> *I respect Michael Moore but this statement from him is DELUSIONAL !*
> **
> *" Obama moving the ball down the court ", " a victory for the people " ?*
> *What planet is he living on ?*
> **
> *This is NOT the reality of most Working people in this counrty !*
> **
> *Read my previous post from Doctors for National Healthcare.*
> **
> *It is easy for Michael Moore, a millionaire, to make such a superfical
> statement to defend Obama and the DNC, which he has obviously bought into.*
> **
> *This phoney Obama healthcare bill does NOTHING to further the cause of
> national healthcare for all, in fact in protects and entrenches the
> private capitalist health insurance industry and the Pharmacetucial
> industry, and will make working people WORSE OFF , with less money and
> no and / or inadequate health insurance and it will make OUR work, that
> is those who are TRUELY " Socialists " and " Progressives"  more
> difficult !*
> *Which side are YOU TRUELY on ?*
> *Working people or the corporate contolled democratic party ?*
> *David Johnson*
> *'*
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>     *From:* Gene Vanderport <mailto:lightport at sbcglobal.net>
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>     *Sent:* Sunday, July 01, 2012 6:29 PM
>     *Subject:* [CentralILJwJ] Fw: [CCDS Members] Quote of the Day
>
>
>     Plese check out the quote below........from Michael Moore......
>     Germaine
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>     *Sent:* Sun, July 1, 2012 2:58:33 PM
>     *Subject:* [CCDS Members] Quote of the Day
>
>     Quote of the Day
>     July 1, 2012
>
>     'So take some time tonight to celebrate; this is a
>     victory for the people. Actually, more than a victory,
>     it is a mandate that all of us must now make sure
>     that a second-term Obama continues to move the
>     ball down the field, toward a system like they have
>     in every other First World country on the planet. He
>     simply has to improve Medicare and then expand it
>     to every citizen in the country. The countries that do
>     this, their people live an average of two to four years
>     longer than we do. Is there a reason anyone doesn't
>     want an extra four years of their lives? Or that our
>     babies would have a better chance of surviving their
>     first year like they do in the 48 countries that have a
>     better infant mortality rate than we do? Exactly who
>     is opposed to this? You'd have to be a bit.crazy. '
>
>     Filmmaker/Activist Michael Moore
>     June 28, 2012
>
>     http://tinyurl.com/ckuylaw
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Claudia Lennhoff, Executive Director
Champaign County Health Care Consumers (CCHCC)
44 E. Main Street, Suite 208
Champaign, IL 61820

Phone: 217/352-6533, ext. 6501
Fax:  217/352-9745
E-Mail: claudia at shout.net

Web: http://www.healthcareconsumers.org
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