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[John W.]

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Ricky Baldwin <rbaldwin at seiu73.org> wrote:

Actually, as you recall, Carl, Tim Johnson was an enthusiastic cheerleader
> for the war when Bush was in office until he saw the handwriting on the
> wall. The fact that we helped him see it with the referendum votes against
> the war should not lessen the reality that Johnson changed out of
> self-interest.
>
> Before the invasion of Iraq Johnson claimed at a public meeting here in
> town that he was privy to secret information that the rest of us could not
> know about, which justified his unapologetic support for war.



Johnson said this, in fact, in his debate against Carl when Carl was
running for the House of Representatives.  I remember it well.  How was
Carl to debate Johnson's "secret information"?




> After the invasion of Iraq he was asked about that information, and his
> response that we should not be "Monday morning quarterbacking" - a bad joke
> because our position was not after-the-fact but of course had been made
> clear through protests and letters, etc., well before the war.
>
> None of that swayed him, nor did any subsequent revelations about the Bush
> Administration's lies, Abu Ghraib, the dirty contracts, and so on.  He was
> not swayed in the least by our constant criticism, either, it seems, but in
> the end by a clear demonstration that local voters overwhelmingly opposed
> the war - and perhaps by the impending end of Bush's second and last term
> of office the next year.
>
> Ricky
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