[Peace-discuss] Interesting comment on Syria (from Elaine Hagopian, via Kevin Zeese on ufpj-activist)

Carl G. Estabrook galliher at illinois.edu
Thu Jun 14 14:59:20 UTC 2012


http://www.newstatesman.com/2012/06/exploding-four-myths-about-intervention-syria


On Jun 13, 2012, at 9:08 AM, David Green wrote:

> Amy Goodman made a little progress this morning, after weeks of a  
> headline news approach that reflects mainstream accounts. Patrick  
> Seale provided some good context, while making the mistake of  
> attributing Obama's behavior to Israeli influence and Jewish voters.  
> The representative of the SNC was appropriately challenged in  
> claiming to represent popular and democratic forces. Seale was firm  
> in his suspicison that the Hula massacre was perpretrated by the  
> opposition, calling for an investigation that the U.S. of course  
> does not want. Goodman has not been at all good in providing some  
> much-needed skepticism in this regard.
>
> DG
> From: Carl G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu>
> To: Stuart Levy <salevy at illinois.edu>
> Cc: "peace-discuss at anti-war.net" <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Interesting comment on Syria (from  
> Elaine Hagopian, via Kevin Zeese on ufpj-activist)
> To avoid any suspicion of ulterior motives, why doesn't the US  
> propose a UN-sponsored military intervention to establish peace in  
> Syria - to be carried out by Iran?
>
> To establish its good faith, the U.S. could volunteer to underwrite  
> the mission - but only by contributions to the UN, to be distributed  
> to Iran to cover its costs.
>
>
> On Jun 12, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Stuart Levy wrote:
>> Thought this worth sharing.  A question for us should be, How can  
>> we talk to people about the rush to war with Syria?  Isn't it our  
>> humanitarian duty, a necessary response to the brutal Assad regime,  
>> etc., to do something military against them, just as it was for  
>> Libya? -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject:
>> [ufpj-activist] Interesting comment on Syria
>> Date:
>> Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:58:17 -0400
>> From:
>> Kevin Zeese <kbzeese at gmail.com>
>> To:
>> ufpj-activist <ufpj-activist at lists.mayfirst.org>
>> I thought this was a good statement on Syria by Elaine Hagopian, a  
>> Syrian-American sociologist, a professor emeritus of sociology at  
>> Simmons College in Boston and political interviewer for Arabic Hour  
>> TV. She said today:
>>
>> "The situation in Syria has intensified. The regime is determined  
>> to defeat the militarized opposition and the fractured and  
>> incoherent militarized opposition, which is trying to develop a  
>> united strategy, is determined to bring down the regime. Both  
>> parties refuse to accept a cease fire as part of the Annan plan,  
>> blaming each other for its failure. Each blames the other for the  
>> series of massacres that have taken place. But there are  
>> conflicting reports on these, and the UN monitors have confirmed  
>> the massacres, but have not stated who committed them. They did  
>> identify artillery shells that were fired in the area by the  
>> regime, but did not connect the up close murders of civilians to  
>> the regime. A leading German daily, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung  
>> (FAZ), reports that the rebels did the killing, and the victims  
>> were Alawites. Mainstream media report that the Shabiha (civilian  
>> Alawite mafia) did it on behalf of the regime. Who to believe? Two  
>> things are clear, both the regime and the militarized opposition  
>> lie, and both commit atrocities. In the meantime, the original, non- 
>> violent reform movement, now calling for Assad to step down as  
>> well, has been overshadowed by the violent exchanges going on  
>> between the regime and the militarized opposition. As Syria  
>> deteriorates and feels the pressures of the economic sanctions, the  
>> violence escalates. Russia and the U.S. suggest different  
>> 'solutions,' but have not found common ground to move toward  
>> halting the violence..."
>>
>> The full interview and others here: http://www.arabichour.org
>>
>> KZ
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