[Peace-discuss] Interesting comment on Syria (from Elaine Hagopian, via Kevin Zeese on ufpj-activist)
David Green
davegreen84 at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 13 14:08:19 UTC 2012
Amy Goodman made a little progress this morning, after weeks of a headline news approach that reflects mainstream accounts. Patrick Seale provided some good context, while making the mistake of attributing Obama's behavior to Israeli influence and Jewish voters. The representative of the SNC was appropriately challenged in claiming to represent popular and democratic forces. Seale was firm in his suspicison that the Hula massacre was perpretrated by the opposition, calling for an investigation that the U.S. of course does not want. Goodman has not been at all good in providing some much-needed skepticism in this regard.
DG
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> From: Carl G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu>
>To: Stuart Levy <salevy at illinois.edu>
>Cc: "peace-discuss at anti-war.net" <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:48 PM
>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Interesting comment on Syria (from Elaine Hagopian, via Kevin Zeese on ufpj-activist)
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>To avoid any suspicion of ulterior motives, why doesn't the US propose a UN-sponsored military intervention to establish peace in Syria - to be carried out by Iran?
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>To establish its good faith, the U.S. could volunteer to underwrite the mission - but only by contributions to the UN, to be distributed to Iran to cover its costs.
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>On Jun 12, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Stuart Levy wrote:
>Thought this worth sharing. A question for us should be, How can we talk to people about the rush to war with Syria? Isn't it our humanitarian duty, a necessary response to the brutal Assad regime, etc., to do something military against them, just as it was for Libya? -------- Original Message --------
>>Subject: [ufpj-activist] Interesting comment on Syria
>>Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:58:17 -0400
>>From: Kevin Zeese <kbzeese at gmail.com>
>>To: ufpj-activist <ufpj-activist at lists.mayfirst.org>
>>I thought this was a good statement on Syria by Elaine Hagopian, a Syrian-American sociologist, a professor emeritus of sociology at Simmons College in Boston and political interviewer for Arabic Hour TV. She said today:
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>>"The situation in Syria has intensified. The regime is determined to defeat the militarized opposition and the fractured and incoherent militarized opposition, which is trying to develop a united strategy, is determined to bring down the regime. Both parties refuse to accept a cease fire as part of the Annan plan, blaming each other for its failure. Each blames the other for the series of massacres that have taken place. But there are conflicting reports on these, and the UN monitors have confirmed the massacres, but have not stated who committed them. They did identify artillery shells that were fired in the area by the regime, but did not connect the up close murders of civilians to the regime. A leading German daily, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ), reports that the rebels did the killing, and the victims were Alawites. Mainstream media report that
the Shabiha (civilian Alawite mafia) did it on behalf of the regime. Who to believe? Two things are clear, both the regime and the militarized opposition lie, and both commit atrocities. In the meantime, the original, non-violent reform movement, now calling for Assad to step down as well, has been overshadowed by the violent exchanges going on between the regime and the militarized opposition. As Syria deteriorates and feels the pressures of the economic sanctions, the violence escalates. Russia and the U.S. suggest different 'solutions,' but have not found common ground to move toward halting the violence..."
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>>The full interview and others here: http://www.arabichour.org
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>>KZ
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