[Peace-discuss] Fw: What I Learned On This List

David Johnson dlj725 at hughes.net
Sat Nov 24 18:01:54 UTC 2012


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Johnson" <dlj725 at hughes.net>
To: "David Gehrig" <david-cu at nukulele.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] What I Learned On This List


>" And that counseling that it should be ignored when it appears locally "
>
> WE didn't ignore it, we dealt with it !
>
> Maybe you should confront the individual with the web-site, which is 
> www.newsfollowup.com
> and report back to us.
>
> also, while we are on the subject, is the following that David Green 
> posted true ?
>
> "I would add that David Gehrig has stooped so low as to enter comments 
> using my name on the Daily Illini website to try to frame me as an 
> anti-semite."
>
> David J.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Gehrig" <david-cu at nukulele.org>
> To: "David Johnson" <dlj725 at hughes.net>
> Cc: "Peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 11:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] What I Learned On This List
>
>
> How about a recognition that Holocaust denial isn't a pro- or anti-Zionist 
> issue, but an anti-racist issue? And that counseling that it should be 
> ignored when it appears locally -- and again, remember, on the left -- in 
> the name of anti-Zionism is *not* an act of anti-racism but of political 
> confusion?
>
> @%<
>
> On Nov 24, 2012, at 10:48 AM, "David Johnson" <dlj725 at hughes.net> wrote:
>
>> O.K. Mr. Gehrig,
>>
>> As I stated in my previous e-mail,
>> the C-U Occupy Group was approached by ONE individual who made a website 
>> proposal to our group and becuase of his " Holocaust Revisionism " ( as 
>> he called it ) opinions and articles on his website, that questioned the 
>> number of Jewish people murdered by the Nazis, we told him we were not 
>> interested becuase we disagreed with his opinions and did not want to be 
>> assosiated with his website. period !
>>
>> What more is there to do or discuss ?
>>
>> What do you suggest should be done ?
>>
>> David Johnson
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Gehrig" <david-cu at nukulele.org>
>> To: <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:13 AM
>> Subject: [Peace-discuss] What I Learned On This List
>>
>>
>>> Ah well, I tried. And it's been enlightening.
>>>
>>> Here’s what I’ve learned. When encountering Holocaust denial in one's
>>> own community for the first time -- and encountering it on the left
>>> not the right -- the proper response, according to replies from the
>>> list of the self-proclaimed anti-racism organization, is to do the
>>> following "anti-racist" things:
>>>
>>> (a) begin with a fusillade of gratuitous and off-topic insults aimed
>>> at anyone, you know, actually bothered by Holocaust denial
>>>
>>> (b) immediately change the subject to, say, the JFK assassination
>>>
>>> (c) immediately change the subject to, say, Norman Finkelstein
>>>
>>> (d) immediately change the subject to, say, South Africa
>>>
>>> (e) immediately change the subject to, say, 9/11 trooferdom
>>>
>>> (f) immediately change the subject to, say, Israel
>>>
>>> (g) immediately change the subject to any other damn thing under the
>>> sun but (h) smother any on-topic discussion of that Holocaust denial
>>> as an instance of racism in our community and (i) tell the one who is
>>> offended by the racism that *he’s* the bad guy.
>>>
>>> This is anti-racism?
>>>
>>> I believe there are many good people on this list. Yet the replies I
>>> got were off-topic spiraling whatsits from David up-is-down Green and
>>> a pair of Johnsons. If firemen fought fires the way these guys fight
>>> antisemitism, CU would be ashes.
>>>
>>> @%<
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