[Peace-discuss] [OccupyCU] They let us choose between a child-killer and a job-killer

[Rachel Storm]

*I want off of this list*. If there is someone else organizing for Occupy,
I'd like to be a part of it. But these emails are atrocious and they are
the only ones coming from the list these days. I don't think I can justify
any longer staying on a list that is dominated by trolling without anyone
stepping in or moderating--"the world we want is the world we need." I
don't want to be a part of such a dis-organized space and have remained
here only because I want news about Occupy, dialogue/imagination, and a way
to communicate with others who want to organize against capitalism and f'ed
up dynamics of power (racism, sexism, homophobia, classism, ableism, etc.)
Unfortunately, at this point, this list doesn't seem like a radical space
at all.

* Can someone remove me?*
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On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 3:52 PM, C. G. Estabrook
<carl at newsfromneptune.com>wrote:

> You'd have to have some sort of excuse for voting for a child killer. ("I
> had to kill this kid, or someone would have done something bad to me...")
>
>
> On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Ricky Baldwin <rbaldwin at seiu73.org> wrote:
>
> > I agree with this much:
> >
> > "In Illinois, the Green party's candidate, Jill Stein, is on the ballot,
> and one could write-in Rocky Anderson (Justice party), who's been
> impressive in the third-party debates.
> >
> > The third-party vote in Illinois will probably make more of an
> impression than abstention."
> >
> > But I think it's worth specifically pointing out that voting
> strategically or pragmatically (some might say "intelligently") does not
> somehow "corrupt" a person.  People may vote in relative ignorance or fear,
> and either of those things could have a negative impact on his or her
> mental health and/or effectiveness as a human being ad member of society,
> but of course neither one of those things is anything new in human history.
>  I also think the effect is pretty minor if we're talking about voting, as
> opposed to the things people may do out of fear and/or ignorance in many
> parts of the world and in history in order to survive, to get a job, to
> eat, to protect their families and communities, etc.
> >
> > --- In case anyone doesn't mind my 2c... But I suppose the short-term
> effect is the same as the above, at least in the case of that presidential
> elections, which is the vote that has the least impact.
> >
> > Ricky
> > ________________________________________
> > From: occupycu-bounces at lists.chambana.net [
> occupycu-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of C. G. Estabrook [
> cge at shout.net]
> > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 10:18 AM
> > To: peace-discuss at anti-war.net
> > Cc: sf-core; occupycu
> > Subject: [OccupyCU] They let us choose between a child-killer and a
> job-killer
> >
> > ...and we're corrupted by voting for either.
> >
> > In Illinois, the Green party's candidate, Jill Stein, is on the ballot,
> and one could write-in Rocky Anderson (Justice party), who's been
> impressive in the third-party debates.
> >
> > The third-party vote in Illinois will probably make more of an
> impression than abstention.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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