[Peace-discuss] [OccupyCU] They let us choose between a child-killer and a job-killer

["E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森"]

I voted Ignorantly, therefore I am not responsible for my actions.

Non cogito, ergo zero sum.


On 10/30/12 6:43, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
> I mean that voters can't escape some complicity with their candidates' actions.
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> On Oct 29, 2012, at 5:25 PM, Ricky Baldwin<rbaldwin at seiu73.org>  wrote:
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>> Actually, I think you're mixing up the candidate's excuses with the voter's thinking.  The two are not necessarily the same, which is in part the point.
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>> Ricky
>> ________________________________________
>> From: C. G. Estabrook [carl at newsfromneptune.com]
>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 3:52 PM
>> To: Ricky Baldwin
>> Cc: peace-discuss at anti-war.net; occupycu
>> Subject: Re: [OccupyCU] They let us choose between a child-killer and a job-killer
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>> You'd have to have some sort of excuse for voting for a child killer. ("I had to kill this kid, or someone would have done something bad to me...")
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>> On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Ricky Baldwin<rbaldwin at seiu73.org>  wrote:
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>>> I agree with this much:
>>>
>>> "In Illinois, the Green party's candidate, Jill Stein, is on the ballot, and one could write-in Rocky Anderson (Justice party), who's been impressive in the third-party debates.
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>>> The third-party vote in Illinois will probably make more of an impression than abstention."
>>>
>>> But I think it's worth specifically pointing out that voting strategically or pragmatically (some might say "intelligently") does not somehow "corrupt" a person.  People may vote in relative ignorance or fear, and either of those things could have a negative impact on his or her mental health and/or effectiveness as a human being ad member of society, but of course neither one of those things is anything new in human history.  I also think the effect is pretty minor if we're talking about voting, as opposed to the things people may do out of fear and/or ignorance in many parts of the world and in history in order to survive, to get a job, to eat, to protect their families and communities, etc.
>>>
>>> --- In case anyone doesn't mind my 2c... But I suppose the short-term effect is the same as the above, at least in the case of that presidential elections, which is the vote that has the least impact.
>>>
>>> Ricky
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: occupycu-bounces at lists.chambana.net [occupycu-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of C. G. Estabrook [cge at shout.net]
>>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 10:18 AM
>>> To: peace-discuss at anti-war.net
>>> Cc: sf-core; occupycu
>>> Subject: [OccupyCU] They let us choose between a child-killer and a     job-killer
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>>> ...and we're corrupted by voting for either.
>>>
>>> In Illinois, the Green party's candidate, Jill Stein, is on the ballot, and one could write-in Rocky Anderson (Justice party), who's been impressive in the third-party debates.
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>>> The third-party vote in Illinois will probably make more of an impression than abstention.
>>>
>>>
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