[Peace-discuss] on demonstrating on questions that the two parties are not addressing -- Closer Than You Think: Top 15 Things Romney and Obama Agree On

[ya'aQov]

*Thank you Stuart (!) for sending-in your needed post; at ocCUpy
meetings/protests nobody intended to be taken for granted, to be continued
during for many years to come, for many tears to come.**
*




On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Stuart Levy <stuartnlevy at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Comments ...
>
> Ya'aqov Ziso wrote:
>
> * to perhaps sway Obama voters  -- to whom? to what?*
>
> As far as *voting* is concerned, I think we'd hope to sway potential Obama
> voters to say to him and to the Dem. party, Remember, you need our
> support.  Listen to us!  The fact that your opponents are out of their
> minds does not guarantee that you can give up any prospect of social
> equity, accept any corporate dictate, promote any war, without concern for
> us.  Certainly that's what unions should be saying - they may be greatly
> reduced but their mobilization can still be important in close races, and
> there are lots of those.
>
> Further -
>
> Remember what started this thread: a proposal for a demonstration.  The
> goal of that demonstration was *not* to say, Vote Against Obama nor Vote
> for Romney.  It was to tell Obama (and everyone) that Bradley Manning's
> (accused) whistleblowing and (actual) official mistreatment are important
> issues.  Better, that whistleblowing to expose war crimes - undermining the
> bureaucracy of war - should be admired, not prosecuted.
>
> (If we're talking about prosecution, we'd do better to compare the
> aggressive prosecution of Manning with the non-prosecution of many in the
> US administration, or to take Archbishop Tutu's position, that those who
> should be prosecuted now were those at the highest level who misled their
> countries into a war that killed, at least hundreds of thousands of people,
> displaced millions, and destroyed a country.  Though that would seem to
> distract from the questions of Bradley Manning and of Wikileaks.   (By
> coincidence, as I'm typing this, BBC radio is having a live discussion of
> the ICC, Archbishop Tutu's call for prosecutions, and the criminality of
> the Iraq war.))
>
> Finally -
>
> Thanks, especially to Jenifer, for keeping non-announcement messages off
> the Peace list.
>
>


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