[Peace-discuss] "Obama Starting to Lose It Over Snowden"

[ewj at pigsqq.org]

There are 4 kinds of people in China actually.

 1) Some are crazy to go abroad to the USA and it's their dream to get a
house
 with a lawn in Suburbia and live like an American. I kid you not, they
want that,
 and some have enough money to go do just that and they
 are doing it. I know a fellow who is working on buying a house in
 Naperville. Those kind of Chinese could care less about the war
 or anything else about American politics.

 2) I met a girl on the airplane who told me that Barack Obama was her hero
 and she had read his books and she was so excited to being able to sit
next
 to an American and talk about Obama. I dont think she was prepared for
 my opinion.

I heard of another woman who is the heiress to the Wahaha fortune.  She
said
that Hillary R. Clinton was her idol.  Certainly a perspective very
different indeed
i'd say...

 3) Some are very wise to what the US has been doing domestically and
around the world. The people who work for me are in that category. I am
sure I did not hire them because of their libertarian views and I am also
not sure that I influenced them all that much. They pretty much think that
the Chinese government is corrupt and the US government is corrupt.

 They are perhaps more resigned than me to accept things the way they are,
 what Shaw called "reasonable". I am pretty much the unreasonable type.

 4) Some dont even think about the USA one way or the other.

 Thoreau said that the mass of men live lives of quiet desperation.  I dont
take the
numbing potion of resignation with silence.

But you asked about the Chinese.


 > -------Original Message-------
 > From: Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com>
 > To: ewj at pigsqq.org <ewj at pigsqq.org>, C. G. Estabrook
<carl at newsfromneptune.com>, Peace-discuss List
<peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
 > Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] "Obama Starting to Lose It Over Snowden"
 > Sent: Aug 05 '13 21:31
 >
 > Wayne
 >
 > What is your assessment of what most people in China think of the
situation
 > here in the US? My impression when there, was that they were less
 > brainwashed by authority than the American people, generally speaking.
 >
 > Karen A.
 >
 >
 > > From: ewj at pigsqq.org
 > > To: carl at newsfromneptune.com; Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
 > > Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 00:23:06 +0800
 > > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] "Obama Starting to Lose It Over Snowden"
 > >
 > > From here it looks like the US Govt is trying to play the terrorism
card
 > > to attract attention to the "fact" that the people need to be
 > > protected from terrorism...
 > >
 > > But from here it also looks like a ploy to fool the people.
 > >
 > >
 > > > -------Original Message-------
 > > > From: C. G. Estabrook <carl at newsfromneptune.com>
 > > > To: Peace-discuss List <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
 > > > Subject: [Peace-discuss] "Obama Starting to Lose It Over Snowden"
 > > > Sent: Aug 04 '13 21:55
 > > >
 > > > [There's a curiously personal mien to the administration's frantic
 > attempt to suppress Snowden. It is prompted by Obama's fear that popular
 > opposition to his global assassination program may grow? "The Audacity
of
 > Hope" shows his fear of the sort of antiwar movement that brought down
 > Johnson and Nixon. --CGE]
 > > >
 > > > "...officialdom seems constitutionally unable to recognize that they
 > can’t halt the process that is underway, short of, say, blowing up
the
 > Guardian or launching a coup (as in I am confident that both Greenwald
and
 > Snowden have gotten copies of critical materials into enough hands at
the
 > Guardian that the publication of documents would proceed even if
something
 > were to either of them). The surveillance state seem incapable of
grasping
 > that they might not win this fight, and if they don’t make an
effort to
 > get on this bus, they really could wind up under it.
 > > >
 > > > "Grayson’s hearing will take place in September. Obama’s
delaying
 > tactics, which will push the confab into fall prime time, might prove to
be
 > another own goal. Stay tuned."
 > > >
 > > > Full at
 >
<http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/08/obama-starting-to-lose-it-over-snowden.html#ViOHVsxMMj1xldXd.99>
 > > > _______________________________________________
 > > > Peace-discuss mailing list
 > > > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
 > > > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss
 > > >
 > > >
 > >
 > > _______________________________________________
 > > Peace-discuss mailing list
 > > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
 > > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.chambana.net/pipermail/peace-discuss/attachments/20130805/1ea89655/attachment.html>