[Peace-discuss] [Peace] Press release

Fri Dec 27 23:37:04 UTC 2013

Interaction with yaaaQ'ov is a bit like interaction
with a large pile of cat feces.

If you get very close to such a pile,
you almost always get a little bit of it on you,
and you always come away with the smell.

Sometimes it is best to see what sunshine and the process of
time will do to it rather than become besplattered in trying to
force it.

On 12/28/2013 7:21 AM, ya'aQov wrote:
> David Green,
>
> You have now documented your ways of addressing someone who'd showed 
> disagreement with your opinions.  You resorted to offensive remarks 
> and ethnic profiling.  I have read too many of your articles, 
> redundantly adhering to Palestinian propaganda,  propaganda that 
> accomplished nothing.  Clinging to the buzz of names like Chomsky and 
> Finkelstein doesn't cover for the fact you, David Green, have nothing 
> new and current to say.  You're a clichee rubber stamper.
>
> But you are welcome to stand on any issues you wish.  Your inability 
> to formulate a brief paragraph about something you wrote articles 
> about does not favor you as someone who wants to be a spokesperson, 
> speaking on your feet.  Your CPL panel was similar,  when you never 
> looked at the people you supposedly addressed.  Are you going to refer 
> your supporters to your corpus of articles on the Internet when you're 
> asked a simple question?  perhaps assign them term papers?  I have 
> reasons to NOT be one of those C-U citizens.  Informed C-U citizens 
> will eventually vote.
>
> Ya'aqov
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 4:39 PM, David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com 
> <mailto:davegreen84 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>     Am I supposed to be impressed that you asked Abueleish about the
>     murder of other Palestinians rather than about the murder of his
>     daughters by Israeli Jews?
>
>     Yaaqov, you are welcome to plan another event at CPL or UFL and
>     discuss these issues publicly, as part of my campaign, or yours.
>     You can invite local Zionists, non-Zionists, anti-Zionists, and
>     Palestinians. Or just you and me. I think I've made myself pretty
>     clear about where I stand on all these issues. You can look up my
>     articles on the internet, just google my name with Champaign,
>     Urbana, Israel, Palestine--not a big secret. You can also go on
>     the NewsAccess search engine through the campus library and bring
>     up all my News-Gazette (and NYT) letters and articles. Do I have
>     to serve them to you on a neat platter?
>
>     If you were the least bit genuinely concerned about a just peace
>     in I/P, your actions locally would have long since demonstrated
>     that. But you persist in "moral equivalence" between oppressor and
>     oppressed, in order to hide your own clear lack of interest in
>     assertively supporting the Palestinian cause, always reserving the
>     final complaint against Israel's Palestinian victims.
>
>     The difference between you and me, as far as I can tell, is that
>     I'm concerned with the consequences of my government's actions,
>     and the consequences of institutionalized racism in Jewish
>     cultural/political/religious/educational life. That's why I
>     protested the "Israel Studies Program" on campus, funded by the
>     Lobby in Chicago and inviting only Jews--thus racist to the core,
>     and supported by the late Chancellor Richard Herman, and
>     uncommented upon in our community except by me.
>
>     The panel at CPL was regarding Islamophobia in Jewish and American
>     culture. I believe my remarks provided the basis for this article:
>     http://mondoweiss.net/2010/09/a-higher-racism-the-new-justifications-for-islamophobia-and-pre-emptive-violence.html
>
>     I look forward to your planning an event to publicly discuss these
>     issues in front of the community. At this point, I am completely
>     finished with this conversation.
>
>     David Green
>
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>     On Friday, December 27, 2013 3:31 PM, ya'aQov <yaaqovz at gmail.com
>     <mailto:yaaqovz at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         David Green,
>
>         Indeed, the meeting I referred to was at CPL a panel you were
>         on. My specific question to Dr Abu Al-Aish at UFL, was about
>         Vittorio Arrigoni
>         <http://news.sky.com/story/849144/kidnapped-italian-activist-found-dead-in-gaza>
>         and his assassination by Hamas. The level of your purposeful
>         misquoting my statements at that and other meetings
>         critically disappoints me. If this is what an academic does
>         when getting into politics, don't we have such politicians already
>
>
>
>         Your ethnic profiling of me is indicative of the depth you
>         would apply to someone challenging your standpoint. You would
>         think, it's your campaign related need to tarnish one's image
>         and trivialize her/his comments.  After all, you are trying so
>         hard to show you are concerned and involved with your
>         potential voters (yet in the face of disagreements, you do
>         whatever it takes to defend your ticket, it's a mere
>         technicality to pass over a hurdle). Did you really need to
>         embed your reply with offensive remarks, character assassination
>         attempts?  isn’t Rush Limbaugh an excellent spokesperson for
>         doing that already?
>         And you haven’t answered yet my question: what you considered
>         Palestinians (?) other than by implying they are those people
>         that Israelis have been been horrible with.  Mind you, you
>         propose no change about that,
>
>
>
>         Ya'aqov
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> -- 
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> ya'a*Q*ov ziso
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