[Peace-discuss] [Peace] Press release

Sat Dec 28 16:02:48 UTC 2013

I asked you a simple question, Carl answered, you didn’t.  You keep giving
us homework Prof. Green, rather than clearly answering a simple question.
 The fact you repeated your mantra for 15 years doesn’t mean you were
responsibly clear.

I won’t be willing to satisfy your campaign need for a spectacle-match each
time you’re asked a simple question.  I’m sure your bouncers would be there
for you.

Ya'aqov

On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 9:18 AM, David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Right Yaaqov, my views on I/P have never been challenged during my 15
> years in CU, and I've never expressed my views of the conflict clearly. So
> in case you're not satisfied, my challenge to engage in public debate as
> part of my campaign or otherwise still stands. I'm sure AWARE will be happy
> to sponsor that. You are one threadbare Zionist.
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> If I were to be elected to Congress, I would be alone in my advocacy for a
> just settlement to the conflict in accordance with international law, as
> supported by the international community--countries other than the U.S. and
> Israel.
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>   On Saturday, December 28, 2013 8:57 AM, ya'aQov <yaaqovz at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>  Thanks Carl.
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> My easy question was intended to provide David Green a platform for HIS
> new ideas, if any.  D. Green did not see the opportunity, he rather turned
> my offer into a venue for his traditional flaunting of academic
> despiteness, that despite his being Jewish, he will attack Israeli Jews for
> their racist country, etc. etc.
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> As congressman for IL-13, D. Green would be responsible to place
> ‘Palestinians’ also in some historic context and trajectory where
> Palestinian decision makers have been responsible for their acts vis-a-vis
> Israelis.  D. Green is still short of talking about THAT.
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> I received a couple of eMails from people who consider themselves D.
> Green’s bouncers,  responsible to protect him from any challenge and
> dissent.  Those notes clarified for me also why would he use offensive and
> profiling remarks: he was using that as code asking for his bouncers to
> intervene.  Way to go to Congress.
>
> Ya'aqov
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> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:06 PM, C. G. Estabrook <
> carl at newsfromneptune.com> wrote:
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> These are not difficult questions. Palestinians are inhabitants of the
> territories - the West Bank and Gaza - illegally occupied and blockaded by
> Israel. It would be 'helpful' indeed for Israel to obey international law,
> end the occupation, and cease its oppression of the inhabitants of the
> territories.
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> That Israel is an officially racist state - legally privileging one group
> defined by descent - is not in itself directly connected to the occupation.
> (I.e., Israel would remain a racist state even if the occupation were
> dissolved.)
>
> The important point for us Americans is that none of Israel's crimes would
> be possible without the support - political, military, economic, and
> diplomatic - provided by the US government. It is only this US support that
> has blocked the international consensus - which has existed for a
> generation - for a 'two-state solution.'
>
> I think David Green and Medea Benjamin are quite right about the
> negotiations with Iran. Our junior senator's actions are nothing short of
> criminal: his proposed bill is a violation of the UN charter, which forbids
> the threat as well as the use of force in international relations.
>
> Members and friends of AWARE are writing Sen. Kirk to say so at <
> http://www.kirk.senate.gov/?p=comment_on_legislation>.
>
> --CGE
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> On Dec 27, 2013, at 11:01 AM, ya'aQov <yaaqovz at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > David Green,
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> > While I firmly support P5+1 talks with Iran, I am not convinced of your
> support.  I have often heard you   supporting Palestinian propaganda
> slogans, as long as they were against, as you put it, Israel and AIPAC.  By
> 'Israel' you  shortcut  to 'Zionists', 'bad guys'. So I knew what you were
> against.   But I don't quite know what you are for.   Would you please
> state what you consider 'Palestinians' and what you think would be helpful
> to the Palestinians? I would appreciate your limiting your answer to one
> paragraph.  Thank you,
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> > Ya'aqov Ziso
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> > On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:00 AM, David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > This was sent to 27 editors and reporters in IL-13.
> > Press Release: David Green supports P5+1 talks with Iran and opposes
> attempts to undermine them with further sanctions against Iran
> > David Green, candidate for U.S. Congress in IL-13, agrees with a
> statement by antiwar activist Media Benjamin regarding a positive
> development in 2013:
> > “Talks with Iran are progressing, despite Israel and AIPAC’s objections.
> The P5+1 group of Britain, China, France, Russia, the United States and
> Germany has made great headway in finding a solution to diffuse the crisis
> around Iran’s nuclear program. Negotiators are anxious to take advantage of
> the opening represented by the election of a moderate Iranian leader,
> President Hassan Rouhani. Sadly, a group of both Democrats and Republicans
> in Congress, along with the AIPAC lobby, threaten to derail the talks by
> pushing for greater sanctions against Iran. If we can move ahead with
> talks, 2014 could be the year we finally ditch the Bush-era “axis of evil”
> treatment and build friendly relations with Iran.”
> > The primary Republican sponsor of the Senate bill that threatens greater
> sanctions against Iran is our own Senator Mark Kirk. David Green firmly
> opposes his dangerous and potentially destructive efforts, and calls upon
> his opponents in the Democratic Party for U.S. Congress in IL-13 to do the
> same—or to clearly state their reasons for doing otherwise.
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      ya'a*Q*ov ziso
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