[Peace-discuss] No U.S. Drone Strikes in Mali Without Congressional Approval

Thu Jan 17 02:47:29 UTC 2013

Oh, but the Constitution *does* provide for me to receive a million
dollars. Congress can vote to give me a million dollars anytime it wants,
just as it can vote to impeach the President anytime it wants. The two
things are about equally likely to happen, so if I'm going to advocate for
things that have no chance of happening, I might as well advocate for the
one that would give me greater personal enjoyment.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Carl G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu>wrote:

> The Constitution doesn't provide for your receiving a million dollars.
>
> It does provide for the impeachment and removal from office of chief
> executives guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors, as Obama obviously is.
>
> It's wrong to surrender to those congressional representatives who refuse
> to follow the law, instead of opposing them.
>
>
> On Jan 16, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Robert Naiman <naiman at justforeignpolicy.org>
> wrote:
>
> Why not demand that Congress give me a trillion dollars? I mean, as long
> as we're stipulating that objective reality is unimportant as a guide to
> action.
>
> Not extending the drone war to Mali is a plausible ask. It's a crime that
> hasn't been committed yet. Preventing it is a winnable fight.
>
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Carl G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu>wrote:
>
>> Why not demand Congress impeach Obama for violating the Constitution &
>> international law, & murder?
>>
>> That would do a s much good, and perhaps more.
>>
>> On Jan 16, 2013, at 6:28 PM, Robert Naiman <naiman at justforeignpolicy.org>
>> wrote:
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>> Date: Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 6:09 PM
>> Subject: No U.S. Drone Strikes in Mali Without Congressional Approval
>> To: naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
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>> Dear Robert,
>>
>> *Tell Congress to insist the Administration obtain explicit
>> Congressional authorization before conducting drone strikes in Mali.
>> *
>> Take Action<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=P77yi6TJfW6O4Q46QjfOCtzaJIMQCl9N>
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>> France has undertaken a major military campaign in Mali. *U.S. officials
>> are talking about the possibility of supporting the French military
>> campaign with U.S. drone strikes.*
>>
>> Congress hasn't authorized US military intervention in Mali. In
>> particular, *Congress hasn't authorized U.S. drone strikes in Mali.*
>>
>> *Urge your Representative and Senators to publicly insist that the
>> Administration obtain explicit Congressional authorization before
>> conducting drone strikes in Mali.*
>>
>> *http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/mali-drones<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=eUlT3lInUmnnmhE8x1tSatzaJIMQCl9N>
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>>
>> The *Washington Post* reports: [1]
>>
>> *[A senior U.S.] official said contingency plans for the use of armed
>> drones were already in place and are being reevaluated.*
>>
>> Without explicit Congressional authorization, the only U.S. legal
>> authority the Administration could claim for conducting drone strikes in
>> Mali is the 2001 Authorization for the Use of Military Force passed after
>> the September 11 attacks. This is the legal authority the Administration
>> has invoked for conducting drone strikes in Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia.
>> The invocation of the 2001 AUMF to justify drone strikes in Pakistan,
>> Yemen, and Somalia is already very controversial. The invocation of the
>> 2001 AUMF to justify drone strikes in Mali should be even more
>> controversial.
>>
>> Indeed, on November 1, the *Washington Post* editorial board, which
>> supports the drone strike policy overall, and believes that US drone
>> strikes in Pakistan and Yemen are legal overall, wrote: [2]
>>
>> The *Post*’s reporting suggests that the administration is …
>> contemplating the use of drones in more countries where jihadist forces are
>> active, including Libya and Mali. This raises new legal and political
>> quandaries. *The further — in geography, time and organizational
>> connection — that the drone war advances from the original al-Qaeda target
>> in Afghanistan, the less validity it has under the 2001 congressional
>> authorization … most of the world is unlikely to accept an argument that
>> the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks justify drone strikes more than a decade later
>> in Northern Africa.*
>>
>> The *Washington Post* now notes that U.S. support for France's military
>> campaign could "*test U.S. legal boundaries*"; that direct U.S. military
>> aid to Mali is "*forbidden under U.S. law because the weak rump
>> government there seized power in a coup*"; and that some fighters who
>> may be targeted by France are "*longtime foes of the Malian government
>> and pose no direct threat to U.S. interests*" [3] - thus, they have
>> nothing to do with the September 11 attack and therefore the 2001 AUMF
>> can't be invoked to justify attacking them.
>>
>> If the Administration conducts drone strikes in Mali without new
>> Congressional authorization, it would be a major setback both for efforts
>> to bring accountability and transparency to the drone strike program and to
>> efforts to protect Congressional authority to decide when the United States
>> goes to war. We have a responsibility to try to draw a line in the sand in
>> front of expansion of the drone war to Mali.
>>
>> *Urge your Representative and Senators to speak up.*
>>
>> *http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/mali-drones<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=3FUFdlSISAzPzlByY9Mxk9zaJIMQCl9N>
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>> References:
>>
>> 1. "U.S. weighs military support for France’s campaign against Mali
>> militants," Anne Gearan, Karen DeYoung and Craig Whitlock, Washington Post,
>> January 15, 2013
>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-weighs-military-support-for-frances-campaign-against-mali-militants/2013/01/15/a071db40-5f4d-11e2-b05a-605528f6b712_story.html<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=xq6v%2FTBuoGpYXBI8S85%2F7tzaJIMQCl9N>
>> 2. "Pulling the U.S. drone war out of the shadows," Editorial, Washington
>> Post, November 1, 2012,
>> http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-11-01/opinions/35503416_1_drone-attacks-drone-strikes-qaeda<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=GHnTdIEtmFf2xzui1SY%2FmDJhRzAi1y7H>
>> 3. "U.S. weighs military support for France’s campaign against Mali
>> militants," Anne Gearan, Karen DeYoung and Craig Whitlock, Washington Post,
>> January 15, 2013
>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-weighs-military-support-for-frances-campaign-against-mali-militants/2013/01/15/a071db40-5f4d-11e2-b05a-605528f6b712_story.html<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=aSQHJvMm%2F78pndv9j9ngmtzaJIMQCl9N>
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