[Peace-discuss] [OccupyCU] Save books, because you can't save kids from Obama?

"E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森" ewj at pigsqq.org
Fri Jul 12 05:17:57 UTC 2013


It is clearly Camel cigarettes (unfiltered)
that are being referred to in the Biblical context.

Case in point:

Genesis 24:64:
And Rebekah lifted up her eyes,
and when she saw Isaac,
she lighted off the Camel.


On 07/12/13 11:31, Carl G. Estabrook wrote:
> That's funny - but I think if you read that chapter from Matthew's gospel you'd agree that the line is about missing the point, or substituting concern for little things for concern for big things.
>
> In the chapter Jesus is presented as condemning the "scribes and Pharisees" (a profession and a party: as we might say, "the lawyers and the Republicans") for scrupulously observing the ceremonial law but neglecting "the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith."
>
> Your memory about a gate to the city may refer to another section of Matthew's gospel that also involves a camel:
>
> "Then Jesus said to his disciples, ‘Truly I tell you, it will be hard for a rich person to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.’ When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astounded and said, ‘Then who can be saved?’ But Jesus looked at them and said, ‘For mortals it is impossible, but for God all things are possible.’" [Matthew 19:23-26; parallel versions appear in Mark 10:24-25 and Luke 18:24-25]
>
> "The 'eye of the needle' has been claimed to be a gate in Jerusalem, which opened after the main gate was closed at night. A camel could only pass through this smaller gate if it was stooped and had its baggage removed. This story has been put forth since at least the 15th century, and possibly as far back as the 9th century. However, there is no evidence for the existence of such a gate ... This also ignores the explanation given in Matthew 19:26: ‘For mortals it is impossible, but for God all things are possible’...
>
> "According to the English interpretation of the Quran, 'Indeed, those who deny Our verses and are arrogant toward them - the gates of Heaven will not be opened for them, nor will they enter Paradise until a camel enters into the eye of a needle. And thus do We recompense the criminals.' [Surat Al-Araf (The Heights) 7:40]."
>
> --CGE
>
> On Jul 11, 2013, at 10:00 PM, Karen Medina<kmedina67 at gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>    
>>> I had in mind the gospel according to Matthew 23:24:
>>> "You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel!"
>>>        
>> I always wondered what that meant, but the library got rid of all the
>> Bible interpretations, so I guess I will never know.
>>
>> Does it refer to drinking water? Or do I remember something about it
>> possibly referring to a gate to a city?
>>
>> 23Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you pay tithe of
>> mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of
>> the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought you to have done, and
>> not to leave the other undone. 24You blind guides, which strain at a
>> gnat, and swallow a camel. 25Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees,
>> hypocrites! for you make clean the outside of the cup and of the
>> platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess. …
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