[Peace-discuss] Fw: Rodney Davis voted yes on theAmash-Conyers amendment

[David Johnson]

I would also include one's position on gun control.

I may be wrong in my interpretation but I consider any issue that is NOT 
class based as identity poitics.

Some issues fit easier than others in that category.

Spying on American citizens is not class based per se, however it is class 
based in that it adversely effects Working people ( ie. anyone who is an 
employee, a retired employee, or a self-employed person with no employees ) 
more than the employer / ruling class.

Racism is not a class issue per se but because most Working people of Color 
potentialy are effected by it more than wealthy or bourgoise people of 
Color, than to me that is a class issue as well.
Of course the neo-liberals have used the issue of race diversity as a smoke 
screen to justify income inequality and disenfranchisement.

You are right in a sense that it was party politics, but this was a 
democratic party primary and it was the one issue of gun control that was 
used to drown out other issues.

Thanks for your thoughts Rohn.

David Johnson

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rohn Koester" <rohnkoester at gmail.com>
To: "David Johnson" <dlj725 at hughes.net>
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amendment


I appreciate this post -- thank you.

I have a different understanding of "identity politics" -- a
collectivist response to political power based on characteristics like
race, class, gender, sexual orientation, etc. The sort of thing
described here seems more like party politics.

rk


On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:33 AM, David Johnson <dlj725 at hughes.net> wrote:
> Below are the rest of the Illinois U.S. Congress people and how they 
> voted.
>
> Only 2 out of 11 democrats voted YES to stop NSA spying, Bobby Rush ( 
> former
> Black Panther Party member ) and Danny Davis.
>
> Voting NO in support of NSA spying were 9 democrats including the liberal
> "darlings " Jan Schakowski and Robin Kelly ( the recently elected
> Congresswomen from Chicago who took Jesse Jackson Jr.'s seat ). Jesse
> Jackson Jr. would have absolutely voted YES. And I can also bet that 
> Kelly's
> democratic primary opponent Halvorson would have voted YES. You know the 
> one
> who the DNC did a smear campaign on because she opposed gun control. And 
> as
> usual the loyal liberal dems swallowed the propoganda hook, line and 
> sinker.
> So I hope your happy with your choice. Identity politics strikes again.
>
> Yet, 2 out of 5 republicans voted YES to stop NSA spying. A much better
> average than the democrats I am sorry to say.
>
> Moral to the story.... If one truely believes in their values of a better
> country and a better world, you MUST stop voting party labels and look at
> each candidate individualy and ESPECIALLY who is giving them corporate 
> money
> ( ie. which corporate interests are they beholden to ).
>
> New York City's staunchly anti-gun mayor Michael Bloomberg played a big 
> role
> in the Illinois race. The Bloomberg-backed Independence USA PAC blasted
> Halvorson in a series of ads for her support of the National Rifle
> Association. Bloomberg's super PAC spent over $2 million on pro-Kelly ads 
> in
> the race.
>
> And we all know what a " friend " to Labor and civil liberties Mayor
> Bloomberg of NYC is
>
>
>
> Note some of these ILLINOIS U.S. Congress people -
>
> (Yes votes are opposed to NSA spying.  No votes support NSA spying )
>
> Democrats – Bustos, X; Davis, Danny, Y; Duckworth, N; Enyart, N; Foster, 
> N;
> Gutierrez, N; Kelly, N; Lipinski, N; Quigley, N; Rush, Y; Schakowsky, N;
> Schneider, N.
>
> Republicans – Davis, Rodney, Y; Hultgren, Y; Kinzinger, N; Roskam, N;
> Schock, X; Shimkus, N.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森"
> To: Robert Naiman
> Cc: Peace-discuss List
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 8:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Rodney Davis voted yes on theAmash-Conyers
> amendment
>
> yes, i would be happier if I wasn't so concerned about
> his motive in so voting.
>
> or his lack thereof.
>
>
>
>
> On 07/25/13 9:14, Robert Naiman wrote:
>
> so we have one thing to be happy with him about.
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/24/amash-amendment-roll-call-vote_n_3648737.html
>
> --
> Robert Naiman
> Policy Director
> Just Foreign Policy
> www.justforeignpolicy.org
> naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
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