[Peace-discuss] Online activism...

Thu Jul 25 21:43:30 UTC 2013

I've removed Occupy CU from the reply list, as its not a discussion list. 

One of these days, Wayne, you're going to surprise us all by actually having the first clue about what you're talking about. But today doesn't seem to be the day. 

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On Jul 25, 2013, at 3:40 PM, "E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森" <ewj at pigsqq.org> wrote:

> Overt antisemitism is having the words "Death to All Jews!" on the 
> banner of the website.
> 
> Anything not coming up to that standard would be sub-overt,
> maybe under-overt, although under-overt (under/over-t) seems
> to be a sort of flip-flopping position.
> 
> "Holocaust denial" on a website or other materials makes one subject
> to accusations of anti-semitism by those who are into that sort of thing
> and believe that there is anti-semitism lurking behind every bush.
> 
> Whether one is anti-semitic or not, one could certain learn to be at
> least mildly opposed to anti-[anti-semitism] regardless of
> one leanings toward semi-tism or complete-tism.
> 
> Actually the opposite of semi-tism seems to be holo-tism,
> and that checks out well in Mandarin-- yi ban zhuyi/quan bu zhuyi,
> and suggests that semi-tism is the tendency to do things halfway,
> half-assed, so to speak.
> 
> One would want to differentiate holo-tism (holotism) from holism,
> which it has being pointed out in some detail that the optical antipode
> of holism is reductionism, but I digress.
> 
> One could be holo-caustic,  or semi-caustic.  Those who prevent the 
> actions of the totally caustic would then be holocaust deniers which
> seems to be quite a scorching fabrication to men of the cloth.
> 
> Regarding anti-semitic semiotics, I was looking for photodiodes and 
> found a supplier from India with the word Swastika in its name. 
> Hitler's handlers stole that symbol from the East and besmirched it.
> It is interesting to see swastikas (clockwise and counterclockwise ones)
> adorning various significant structures in the East.  They are neither
> anti-semitic nor reductionist in that context.
> 
> *
> 
> There seems to be something afoot and afoul in the whole 9-11 matter
> some nugget of truth that continues to drive the truthers and their cousins
> the birthers.
> 
> "Poisoning the well" doesnt seem to be very effective anti-truthing/anti-birthing.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 07/26/13 2:41, David Gehrig wrote:
>> 
>> I see your News Follow-Up site still says that "the Holocaust is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind" and still links to videos from the world's leading Holocaust deniers.
>> 
>> Which is to say, you still have an overtly antisemitic site. 
>> 
>> @%<
>> 
>> On Jul 25, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Stephen Francis <stephenf1113 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all.  This post concerns the issue of whether spending a lot of time posting things on Facebook or local discussion lists is a productive thing to do in the world of social justice and activism.
>>> Yesterday (July 24th)a staffer at the Facebook page 'Prepare to Take America Back' made a link to a page of my website NewsFollowUp.com http://www.newsfollowup.com/obama_body_count_obama_death_list_re-election_cia_gay.htm concerning a list that is known as the Obama Body Count...etc.  The link garnered 121 shares and 174 likes in just a few hours (see http://www.newsfollowup.com/facebook.html.)  This is quite difficult to do as you all know on Facebook.  Prepare to Take America Back is a right wing conservative page that I actually don't like, but at this point any credible political attack from either side of the isle on Obama is needed.  As Jimmy Carter recently put it: "We know longer have a functioning democracy". Anyway, Prepare to Take America Back Facebook has about 120,000 likes and 216,000 people 'talking about this'.  This is nationally substantial.  It is very encouraging to me that my work is seen by people in these numbers. 
>>> NewsFollowUp.com http://www.newsfollowup.com/index.html enjoys about 50,000 to 100,000 page views per month and about 10% of  NFU viewers spend almost 600 hours per month on the site..  But this is nothing compared to the 20 million or so per month that Fox News has.  ...but...  from what I can tell, the average Facebook post gets one or two likes/shares per post if any at all.  I (Facebook name Occupy Occupy) have about 4700 Facebook friends and 516 people who 'follow' me and occasionally my posts will get shared a dozen times or so but usually not and many times no shares or likes.  Even someone like the nationally known activist Cindy Sheehan only has a couple of dozen shares and maybe 50-100 likes each on her posts.  My point here is that ... is it worth it to be spending hours and hours online posting remarks that only a few people see?  I think yes is the answer, but only in the context of you being in a sea of protesters doing the same thing.  Individually it is pretty pathetic, but social media on a world wide basis has made a huge difference... ie Egypt, Tunisia...etc.
>>> As you can see from the front page of http://www.newsfollowup.com/index.html my focus is on 9/11 Truth.  I just believe that this is the most important issue in modern times.  It is the 'head of the snake'.  There is mountains of proof that the Cheneys/Bushes/Zionists of the world murdered 3000 people on 9/11 which has ushered in the Patriot Act/NSA/TSA... etc.  2000 engineers and architects of the website http://www.ae911truth.org/ Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth professional prove that 3 WTC towers were demolished with explosives.  We need to put these people in jail.  Working on anything else is important but doesn't threaten them in any way.... they just keep on doing what they do.
>>> Anyway, I'm done.  Thanks for listening.
>>> Steve Francis
>>> NewsFollowUp.com
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