[Peace-discuss] [OccupyCU] 4th of July - AWARE float (or sink?)

C. G. Estabrook carl at newsfromneptune.com
Mon Jun 17 01:42:16 UTC 2013


I think your response may qualify as a counsel of despair, Wayne. 

Watch closely - we may go as far as criticizing the king's evil advisers. 

Coraggio, CGE


On Jun 16, 2013, at 6:38 PM, "E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森" <ewj at pigsqq.org> wrote:

> I was asked on the airplane flying home from Dalian last night,
> "Why does the American Government waste so much of the 
> people's money on fighting so many wars?"
> 
> I generally answer such questions by explaining how
> that the US war policy benefits the elite who make
> zillions off of running the militaryindustrialcomplex
> and gives the elite power over people in remote places,
> etc., etc.
> 
> Last night I answered by explaining that Americans really
> want to be ruled by a King.  The US had its roots in England.
> England has Kings, why cant the US have Kings?
> England has a Queen.  Why can't the US have Kings and Queens
> to rule over them and start wars?  The US people
> view their president as a King and they want him to
> have the King-like power to do King-y stuff like 
> start wars.
> 
> *
> 
> Obviously the insistence on blaming Obama is simple
> lese majeste.  Railing against the King is tantamount to 
> Tea Party rhetoric, and we shan't have any of that.
> 
> 
> On 06/17/13 5:21, Karen Aram wrote:
>> 
>> Can we focus on the anti-war and the unconstitutionality of it all, without naming individuals?
>> I know its frustrating that so many democrats still have their head in the sands, blaming all our ills on the republicans, but targeting Obama, appears to many as teaparty rhetoric, thus in the name of winning hearts and minds can we just refer to the US Govt. in general?
>> I'm heading over to the White Horse Inn for the meeting, on the assumption that there will be a meeting.
>>  
>> > Subject: Re: [OccupyCU] 4th of July - AWARE float (or sink?)
>> > From: carl at newsfromneptune.com
>> > Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:32:59 -0500
>> > CC: rohnkoester at gmail.com; karenaram at hotmail.com; peace-discuss at anti-war.net; thenewmoon37 at yahoo.com; m-taber at illinois.edu; occupycu at lists.chambana.net
>> > To: r-szoke at illinois.edu
>> > 
>> > Obama has chosen to prosecute a widening war at least as viciously (and unconstitutionally) as his predecessor - or as Nixon in SE Asia. 
>> > 
>> > How can we exculpate him and still say we oppose the war? No one made him kill all those people.
>> > 
>> > --CGE
>> > 
>> > 
>> > "Let me tell you what I felt - and maybe some of the rest of you felt - when I saw the pictures of the Bush library dedication. There was a group of men standing there, former presidents, the ones that are alive. Every one of them is a major criminal. A major criminal. Obama is continuing the grand tradition — that shouldn’t be a great surprise. 
>> > 
>> > "The sentence that came to my mind at the time is from Thomas Jefferson, who said, 'I tremble for my country when I think that God is just, and some day will bring us to his judgment.'" [Noam Chomsky]
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On Jun 16, 2013, at 1:17 PM, "Szoke, Ronald Duane" <r-szoke at illinois.edu> wrote:
>> > 
>> > > Wish there were some way to relate our war & racism concerns more directly to the parade's official themes. I'll walk for whatever theme or slogan is chosen, but hoping it will not be merely the hundredth or thousandth instance of pounding on the demon Obama. Will probably be at Bloomsday event today around time of the AWARE meeting.
>> > > 
>> > > -- Ron 
>> > 
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