[Peace-discuss] [sf-core] [OccupyCU] "The Progressive Movement is astroturf beholden to the rich elite…"

[C. G. Estabrook]

Yeah, that "very junior senator" hadn't even killed any kids yet; he was just proposing "surgical strikes" on Iran. 

You agree with his view that, when it come to more than a decade of murder and torture by the Bush-Obama government, we should "look forward, not backward'?

Maybe we could start by telling the truth about those years to enough Americans to produce the following result:




On Mar 21, 2013, at 7:30 PM, Mike Lehman <rebelmike at earthlink.net> wrote:

> On 3/21/2013 6:30 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>> The leaflet is attached; it was circulated by members of AWARE.
>> 
>> The objections were directed (as my article describes) at those of us who had earlier circulated a flyer critical of Obama at his "town meeting."
>> 
>> The substance of that flyer is contained in the article: <http://www.counterpunch.org/2005/09/29/illinois-anti-warriors-and-the-attractive-senator/>.
>> 
>> Everyone is not/was not mad at me. Identity politics was (and is) an issue.
> Carl,
> Yeah, that could be a long discussion. In fact, it was a discussion 
> probably started around 1969. Looks like we're making quick work of that 
> one as the American left, which I presume is different from them durn' 
> "liberals."
> 
> In its latest iteration here, at least you're only trying to settle 
> things from 2005, when Obama was still wiping the moisture from behind 
> his ears as the very junior senator from the Land of Lincoln.
> 
> How is being firmly stuck in the past going to win us victory tomorrow? 
> I think even Lenin would be starting to look around and think more about 
> when the seminar will be dismissed so he can get a beer than listen to 
> the instructor recount his own grad school ideological conflicts for the 
> nth time.
> Mike
> 
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