[Peace-discuss] [OccupyCU] On Holocaust Remembrance Day: A call to stop falsely accusing activists of anti-Semitism

David Gehrig david-cu at nukulele.org
Wed Apr 30 19:02:12 EDT 2014


Only in the sense that trying to get Carl to condemn an obviously antisemitic incident that his blinkered and dazzlingly narrow ideology simply does not permit him to directly acknowledge one molecule of, lest he be visited in the night by Cockburn's vengeful ghost, is like bidding a corpse to speak. 

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> On Apr 30, 2014, at 5:19 PM, "C. G. Estabrook" <carl at newsfromneptune.com> wrote:
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> David, gone mad on the Illinois heath, has cast himself as Lear, me as Cordelia...
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>> On Apr 30, 2014, at 3:04 PM, David Gehrig <david-cu at nukulele.org> wrote:
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>> *crickets chirping*
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>> Carl just can't do it, can he. 
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>> Curse of the Counterpuncher: when antisemitism shows up in your own town, you are only capable of the silence-that-speaks-volumes, even when challenged directly to address it directly.
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>> Now, to be fair, it's probably a health issue. If he had to actually admit the existence of antisemitism among the anti-zionists of the left, even a single case of it, his head would explode from the cognitive dissonance, since it would undo so much of his Counterpunch programming.
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>> So he'd rather remain embarrassingly and obviously mute; at least it prevents the explosion.
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>>> On Apr 28, 2014, at 5:58 PM, David Gehrig <david-cu at nukulele.org> wrote:
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>>> Then let's hear you on Steve Francis's little Jew-hating party.
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>>>> On Apr 28, 2014, at 5:55 PM, "C. G. Estabrook" <carl at newsfromneptune.com> wrote:
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>>>> Jew-hating (& Muslim-hating, Christian-hating, Arab-hating, black-hating, redneck-hating...) powwows in Champaign-Urbana (& elsewhere) should be condemned.
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>>>> --CGE
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>>>>> On Apr 28, 2014, at 5:25 PM, David Gehrig <david-cu at nukulele.org> wrote:
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>>>>> The sadly typical Estabrook misdirection on the topic, hiding his moral collapse behind the usual bromides.
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>>>>> Carl *knows* that I know people like Steve Francis have the right to speak. He's just taking his usual craven way out when it comes to antisemitism, is all, by trying once more, for the nth time, to fob off the matter of antisemitism because he just can't bring himself to address it head on. Holocaust denial, schmolocaust denial, it's not like a Jew-hating powwow Champaign-Urbana should be condemned, or anything.
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>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2014, at 12:52 PM, "C. G. Estabrook" <carl at newsfromneptune.com> wrote:
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>>>>>> I thought these matters were decided during the Enlightenment.
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>>>>>> If we don't believe in freedom of speech for those we despise, we don't believe in it at all.
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>>>>>> --CGE
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>>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2014, at 12:26 PM, David Gehrig <david-cu at nukulele.org> wrote:
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>>>>>>> For some, the Holocaust will never be anything other than a point to pivot away from as a pretext for an anti-Israel harangue. 
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>>>>>>> And a Holocaust denial conference right here in this town will only cause Carl to emit his most operatic of manufactured yawns.
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>>>>>>> Were this bigotry against any other target, Carl would be leading the charge against it. But again, the Counterpunch position is that, because Jennifer Rubin cries wolf, good little progressives should pretend that there is never, ever, ever such thing as a wolf, no such thing, not even when a gang of them set up shop at the Illini Union for day.
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