[Peace-discuss] [OccupyCU] On Holocaust Remembrance Day: A callto stop falsely accusing activists of anti-Semitism

[David Johnson]

Did you attend the conference Mr. Gehrig ?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Gehrig" <david-cu at nukulele.org>
To: "C. G. Estabrook" <carl at newsfromneptune.com>
Cc: "ya'aQov" <yaaqovz at gmail.com>; "Peace-discuss" 
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Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [OccupyCU] On Holocaust Remembrance Day: A 
callto stop falsely accusing activists of anti-Semitism


> Only in the sense that trying to get Carl to condemn an obviously 
> antisemitic incident that his blinkered and dazzlingly narrow ideology 
> simply does not permit him to directly acknowledge one molecule of, lest 
> he be visited in the night by Cockburn's vengeful ghost, is like bidding a 
> corpse to speak.
>
> @%<
>
>> On Apr 30, 2014, at 5:19 PM, "C. G. Estabrook" <carl at newsfromneptune.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> David, gone mad on the Illinois heath, has cast himself as Lear, me as 
>> Cordelia...
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 30, 2014, at 3:04 PM, David Gehrig <david-cu at nukulele.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> *crickets chirping*
>>>
>>> Carl just can't do it, can he.
>>>
>>> Curse of the Counterpuncher: when antisemitism shows up in your own 
>>> town, you are only capable of the silence-that-speaks-volumes, even when 
>>> challenged directly to address it directly.
>>>
>>> Now, to be fair, it's probably a health issue. If he had to actually 
>>> admit the existence of antisemitism among the anti-zionists of the left, 
>>> even a single case of it, his head would explode from the cognitive 
>>> dissonance, since it would undo so much of his Counterpunch programming.
>>>
>>> So he'd rather remain embarrassingly and obviously mute; at least it 
>>> prevents the explosion.
>>>
>>> @%<
>>>
>>>> On Apr 28, 2014, at 5:58 PM, David Gehrig <david-cu at nukulele.org> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Then let's hear you on Steve Francis's little Jew-hating party.
>>>>
>>>> @%<
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 28, 2014, at 5:55 PM, "C. G. Estabrook" 
>>>>> <carl at newsfromneptune.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Jew-hating (& Muslim-hating, Christian-hating, Arab-hating, 
>>>>> black-hating, redneck-hating...) powwows in Champaign-Urbana (& 
>>>>> elsewhere) should be condemned.
>>>>>
>>>>> --CGE
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2014, at 5:25 PM, David Gehrig <david-cu at nukulele.org> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The sadly typical Estabrook misdirection on the topic, hiding his 
>>>>>> moral collapse behind the usual bromides.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carl *knows* that I know people like Steve Francis have the right to 
>>>>>> speak. He's just taking his usual craven way out when it comes to 
>>>>>> antisemitism, is all, by trying once more, for the nth time, to fob 
>>>>>> off the matter of antisemitism because he just can't bring himself to 
>>>>>> address it head on. Holocaust denial, schmolocaust denial, it's not 
>>>>>> like a Jew-hating powwow Champaign-Urbana should be condemned, or 
>>>>>> anything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @%<
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2014, at 12:52 PM, "C. G. Estabrook" 
>>>>>>> <carl at newsfromneptune.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought these matters were decided during the Enlightenment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If we don't believe in freedom of speech for those we despise, we 
>>>>>>> don't believe in it at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --CGE
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2014, at 12:26 PM, David Gehrig <david-cu at nukulele.org> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For some, the Holocaust will never be anything other than a point 
>>>>>>>> to pivot away from as a pretext for an anti-Israel harangue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And a Holocaust denial conference right here in this town will only 
>>>>>>>> cause Carl to emit his most operatic of manufactured yawns.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Were this bigotry against any other target, Carl would be leading 
>>>>>>>> the charge against it. But again, the Counterpunch position is 
>>>>>>>> that, because Jennifer Rubin cries wolf, good little progressives 
>>>>>>>> should pretend that there is never, ever, ever such thing as a 
>>>>>>>> wolf, no such thing, not even when a gang of them set up shop at 
>>>>>>>> the Illini Union for day.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> @%<
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