[Peace-discuss] [Peace] Invitation to record AWARE ON THE AIR

[Karen Aram via Peace-discuss]

Ya'agov, All
 
Perhaps Carl didn't mention Meshal, perhaps it was someone else he discussed. I have Meshal on my mind having reread the chapter of the book which I referred to on AOTA "Conversations with Terrorists", I had the name of the author wrong its not Richard but Reese Erlich, and it was published in 2009 not 2007, as I said. Noam Chomsky wrote and Afterword, not a Foreward.  Trivialities in the scheme of things.

 
> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 19:35:35 -0500
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> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Invitation to record AWARE ON THE AIR
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> 
> Karen, All,
> 
> First, thank you. The dynamics of the panel evolved differently from
> what what Carl and I wrote BEFORE the panel.  On the air, Carl
> responded to what I've read.  My point was how the military complex
> sells arms to its client states in the Middle East. Israel is NOT a
> stationary aircraft for the US. That metaphor needs now substance, so
> we know what exactly you and Carl meant.  It often happens, that an
> academic uses a metaphor (made viable and useful during the reading of
> an article) that doesn't reflect a reality, or that needs further
> explanation.
> 
> Carl pointed out how the US and Israel supported the creation of Hamas
> in the 90's, a point worth pursuing. Carl did not mention Mashal. I
> was the only one to suggest we call these leaders by their names, and
> attempt to understand what they stand for (the Hamas Charter and
> recent interviews with them being a good start). Carl was the only one
> on the panel that listened and started addressing my points. Szoke
> stuck to his broken record of 'completely incromprehensible', etc.
> 
> Based on what Ron Szoke's comments in the last 3 AWARE on the Air
> panels, hold to my critique of his statements and positions (not of
> him as a lovely community member).
> 
> I find a direct link between the hatred brought by Green and Szoke (in
> Green primaries campaign discussions) and the mob behavior of Stephen
> Francis.  While, academically, Green and Szoke's comments were walking
> a thin line between anti-Israel and anti-Jews, SF didn't notice the
> line, and jumped in with his Holocaust denial notes and conference.
> Typically, that's how mobs operate.  Past day anti-Semitic and
> anti-Israel mobs in Belgium, France, Germany are evidence to behaviors
> of those who don't know, nor care to draw thin lines.
> 
> As long as AWARE will fail to represent direct attempts with Israelis
> and Palestinians, I will attempt to fill that gap.  Respectfully
> Karen, I do not support Szoke's statements as  a voice for remedy.  As
> I said, I see them as a repetition of a strategy that was never
> successful.  Time to look it in the face and draw new conclusions.
> 
> On the air, I also said: as long as Szoke repeats his statements, I
> will no longer address them.  Let's wait for the YouTube recording, so
> everybody will see what they've missed.
> 
> Cordially,
> Ya'aqov
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