[Peace-discuss] How the US is Arming Both Sides of the Iraqi Conflict

Fri Aug 22 13:00:54 EDT 2014

Oh really ?

How is it not a reliable source ?

What information sources to do you consider reliable ?

David Johnson

On 8/22/2014 9:43 AM, Roger Helbig wrote:
> Global Research is not a reliable source of information - it should 
> not be cited as a source by anyone who actually cares anything about 
> the truth - David, you should know better instead of becoming a 
> propagandist yourself.
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 6:59 AM, David Johnson via Peace-discuss 
> <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net 
> <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
>
>       * Ferguson: No Justice in the American Police State
>         <http://www.globalresearch.ca/ferguson-no-justice-in-the-american-police-state/5396838>
>       * Comprehensive Data on Palestinian Deaths in Gaza (July 6 --
>         August 17, 2014)
>         <http://www.globalresearch.ca/comprehensive-data-on-palestinian-deaths-in-gaza-july-6-august-17-2014/5396579>
>       * Ukraine Crisis Continues
>         <http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraine-crisis-continues/5396693>
>       * How to Start a War: The American Use of War Pretext Incidents
>         <http://www.globalresearch.ca/how-to-start-a-war-the-american-use-of-war-pretext-incidents/28554>
>       * Provocations as Pretexts for Imperial War: From Pearl Harbor
>         to 9/11
>         <http://www.globalresearch.ca/provocations-as-pretexts-for-imperial-war-from-pearl-harbor-to-9-11/9063>
>       * Afghanistan and Iraq: it's the Same War
>         <http://www.globalresearch.ca/afghanistan-and-iraq-it-s-the-same-war/5511>
>
>
>         How the US is Arming Both Sides of the Iraqi Conflict
>
>     By Tyler Durden <http://www.globalresearch.ca/author/tyler-durden>
>     Global Research, June 13, 2014
>     Zero Hedge
>     <http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-12/how-us-arming-both-sides-iraqi-conflict>
>     12 June 2014
>     Region: Middle East & North Africa
>     <http://www.globalresearch.ca/region/middle-east>, USA
>     <http://www.globalresearch.ca/region/usa>
>     Theme: 9/11 & 'War on Terrorism'
>     <http://www.globalresearch.ca/theme/9-11-war-on-terrorism>,
>     Militarization and WMD
>     <http://www.globalresearch.ca/theme/militarization-and-wmd>
>     In-depth Report: IRAQ REPORT
>     <http://www.globalresearch.ca/indepthreport/iraq-report>
>     651
>     67 11
>     1346
>     american flag skulls war missile
>
>     /Recall a week ago we wrote "US Begins Delivering F-16s To Iraq
>     This Week, A Decade After It Wiped Out Iraq's Air Force
>     <http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-04/us-begins-delivering-f-16s-iraq-week-decade-after-it-wiped-out-its-air-force>"
>     in which we said:/
>
>         ... the US will deliver the first of 36 F-16 fighter jets to
>         Iraq in what Baghdad's envoy to the United States called a
>         "new chapter" in his country's ability to defend its vast
>         borders with Iran and other neighbors. ....the US earlier in
>         March provided Iraq with some 100 Hellfire missiles as well as
>         assault rifles and other ammunition. Then in April the US sent
>         more arms, providing Iraq with 11 million rounds of ammunition
>         and other supplies.
>
>     It is unknown how many of these have fallen into Al Qaeda/ISIS
>     hands (we do know that at least one Iraqi Black Hawk chopper was
>     captured during the rush for Mosul). What is known is that as PBS
>     Frontline reported two weeks ago, while the administration has
>     denied arming Syrian "rebels", i.e. the same ISIS militants that
>     have crossed the border and are now fighting in Iraq...
>
>     <http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2014/06/iraq_syria-isis-activity_al_qaeda.jpg>
>
>     ... the reality is that it has. From: "Obama Says Not Arming
>     Syrian Rebels, Syrian Rebels Say He Is
>     <http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-28/someone-lying-obama-says-not-arming-syrian-rebels-yet-syrian-rebels-disagree>"
>
>         ... the Syrian rebels themselves say they are already armed
>         and trained by US in the use of sophisticated weapons and
>         fighting techniques, including, one rebel said, "how to finish
>         off soldiers still alive after an ambush." The interviews are
>         the latest evidence that after more than three years of
>         warfare, the United States has stepped up the provision of
>         lethal aid to the rebels, as PBS notes "it appears the Obama
>         administration is allowing select groups of rebels to receive
>         US-made anti-tank missiles."  The commander of the unit also
>         told Ali that their American contacts had asked him to bring
>         80 to 90 members of his unit to Ankara for training. One of
>         the fighters said they received three weeks of training in how
>         to conduct ambushes, conduct raids and use their weapons. They
>         also said they received new uniforms and boots. "They trained
>         us to ambush regime or enemy vehicles and cut off the road,"
>         said the fighter, who is identified only as "Hussein." "They
>         also trained us on how to attack a vehicle, raid it, retrieve
>         information or weapons and munitions, and how to finish off
>         soldiers still alive after an ambush."
>
>     To summarize: the US was arming and training the same Al
>     Qaeda/ISIS groups of Jihadists, that it concurrently gave Iraq
>     weapons to fight. And since the Iraq army has so far proven
>     utterly incapable of any resistance, it is now up to US drones to
>     "fight" the same "rebels" that the US itself was collaborating
>     with until a month or so ago.
>
>     The clear winner here? The US military-industrial complex, of
>     course, as well as the banks who lend money to the governments to
>     fight wars provoked by various "developed nation" spy agencies.
>
>     Collateral damage? Millions of innocent people on the ground in
>     Syria and Iraq, and everywhere else too.
>
>
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