[Peace-discuss] [OccupyCU] [sf-core] Re: Academic rebellion against Salaita firing growing?

ewjohnson via Peace-discuss peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
Wed Aug 27 20:15:01 EDT 2014


It would be even more telling to show the amount of money spent on 
salaries and trappings for administration.



On 08/28/2014 06:55 AM, Ian K via Peace-discuss wrote:
> I want to echo Carl's point about the "yahoos" in the administration. 
> I think part of what Carl's comment underlines is the systemic 
> problem. Not just a few bad apples. I want to go a step further. 
> Wise's decision and the board's univocal support raises other 
> questions about administration altering the value system of higher 
> education. This has become clear to me as I recently took a faculty 
> position elsewhere. The power of administrators.
>
> Academic administrations, no matter the personal knowledge or wisdom, 
> can become a conservative force by the nature of the position. They 
> have little investment in "high-minded" notions bound up with free 
> inquiry. It, it is more properly called "it," is a class for whom good 
> management is an end in itself. As a conservative force, Wise protects 
> the University (the donor base in mind) from political controversy and 
> upheaval. She chose "speech decorum" to rationalize the pass on 
> Salaita, though it was content rather than form that triggered the job 
> withdrawal. "It is not what he said but how he said it," they would 
> have us believe. It is happenstance that the admin chose to police 
> speech decorum when the speech itself lined up with the political 
> hegemon. Wink.
>
> The issue is the role of administration as a proportionate sector of 
> education labor/cost. Admin takes the larger salaries. It increasingly 
> soaks up the total funds available to universities, diverting more to 
> itself than to instruction. It also governs its own growth by shifting 
> spending priorities toward more layers of bureaucracy and away from 
> teaching resources. The Salaita episode draws a vivid picture of this 
> process taking place at the level of values as well: how we value 
> instructors. It is part of the administrative eclipse of the teaching 
> university.
>
> Evidence of the inflation is important:
>
> administration-to-student ratios over time 
> <http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/septemberoctober_2011/features/administrators_ate_my_tuition031641.php?page=all>
>
> 1975:
>
> 1 administrator . . . 84 students
> 1 staff member  . . . 50 students.
>
> 2005:
>
> 1 administrator . . . 68 students
> 1 staff member . . . 21 students.
>
> By some metrics, Illinois grants more funding for administration than 
> teaching resources . . . including faculty salary.
>
> Carl notes that this kind of political-academic silencing has a 
> history back to the world wars. I agree. But the late 20th-century 
> self-aggrandizement and bloat of administrative functions at large in 
> higher ed is something new and clearly relevant. The two are linked 
> and we witness it in decisions about radical politics. The problem is 
> not the wisdom of Chancellors. The problem is in the power over the 
> value system represented by Chancellor (and staff members).
>
> IKD
>
> IKD
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Brussel, Morton K via OccupyCU 
> <occupycu at lists.chambana.net <mailto:occupycu at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
>
>     Useful comments.
>
>     No, they are not yahoos. This came about because of pressure from
>     Israeli apologists and defenders on an unwise chancellor and
>     others of the administration. As for the Board of Trustees, who
>     can have Trust in them to uphold academic freedom and the higher
>     values of society?
>
>     —mkb
>
>     On Aug 27, 2014, at 12:57 PM, 'C. G. Estabrook'
>     carl at newsfromneptune.com <mailto:carl at newsfromneptune.com>
>     [sf-core] <sf-core-noreply at yahoogroups.com
>     <mailto:sf-core-noreply at yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
>
>>     I think this is largely right, except for the characterization of
>>     the UIUC administration as "a bunch of know-nothing yahoos" - as
>>     if their personal failings account for the university's hypocrisy
>>     in regard to academic freedom.
>>
>>
>>     If we agree with that ungenerous assessment, we have to conclude
>>     that American universities have generally been run by
>>     "know-nothing yahoos" through a century of violations of academic
>>     freedom, from World War I through Vietnam. That may well be the
>>     case, but I think the problem is more political than personal. It
>>     will not be solved by appointing "good guys" as administrators,
>>     in the academy or the polity. But that would be a place to start.
>>
>>     --CGE
>>
>>     On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:36 AM, Robert Naiman via Peace-discuss
>>     <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
>>     <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>     Reading the News-Gazette yesterday was like reading the "Stephen
>>>     Salaita protest news."
>>>
>>>     The department of American Indian studies has voted
>>>     no-confidence in Chancellor Wise. The English department may
>>>     follow suit. Other departments are considering similar action.
>>>
>>>     What I suspect is happening, in part, is that the boycott of the
>>>     University of Illinois is working, in the sense that it's
>>>     drawing national and international attention, especially among
>>>     academics, to the idea that there is a grave threat to the
>>>     principles of free speech and academic freedom at the University
>>>     of Illinois. And a lot of writing about this is also mentioning
>>>     the Kilgore case, to establish the idea that there is problem in
>>>     the University of Illinois Administration that runs deeper than
>>>     the Salaita case.
>>>
>>>     I suspect that part of what is happening is that academics
>>>     around the world are writing to their friends on the U of I
>>>     faculty and saying, "What's going on?" And U of I faculty are
>>>     reading in the academic press that their University has become a
>>>     laughingstock, the kind of place where a modern-day Bertrand
>>>     Russell couldn't get a job, because the University
>>>     Administration is run by a bunch of know-nothing yahoos. And
>>>     this is impelling them to action.
>>>
>>>     This is very positive. Good things may yet come of this, if the
>>>     pressure continues to increase.
>>>
>>>     ===
>>>
>>>     Robert Naiman
>>>     Policy Director
>>>     Just Foreign Policy
>>>     www.justforeignpolicy.org <http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/>
>>>     naiman at justforeignpolicy.org <mailto:naiman at justforeignpolicy.org>
>>>     (202) 448-2898 x1 <tel:%28202%29%20448-2898%20x1>
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