[Peace-discuss] [sf-core] FW: [IllinoisSinglePayer] "My insurace company killed me despite Obamacare" and Tricks of the insurance trade

[C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss]

A Freudian slip? Maybe he means it "prevented health funding"?


On Dec 3, 2014, at 12:31 PM, David Johnson via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

> " prevention health funding..."   ???
> 
> I am not certain what manifestation this has under the ACA ( Obamacare ) ?
> 
> David J.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C. G. Estabrook [mailto:carl at newsfromneptune.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 10:54 AM
> To: David Johnson
> Subject: Re: [sf-core] FW: [IllinoisSinglePayer] "My insurace company killed
> me despite Obamacare" and Tricks of the insurance trade
> 
> ..."We had the votes in '09. We had a huge majority in the House, we had 60
> votes in the Senate," [retiring Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA)] told The Hill,
> saying that the first Congress of President Barack Obama's administration
> should have passed "single-payer right from the get go or at least put a
> public option (which) would have simplified a lot."
> 
> "We had the votes to do that and we blew it," he said. He decried that the
> law as it exists is "really complicated" and benefits the insurance
> companies, though he praised its prevention health funding...
> 
> http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/tom-harkin-obamacare-single-payer-blew
> -it
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> 
> On Dec 3, 2014, at 10:05 AM, 'David Johnson' davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net
> [sf-core] <sf-core-noreply at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
>> Two articles that to my mind make in different ways strong arguments
> against pro-profit health insurance, the first very personally tragic and
> the second more legalistic and logical.  Since the ACA was written to extend
> the insurance companies role in health care decisions.
>> Basic results:  money is shoveled to insurance companies and people are
> legally obligated to buy inadequate insurance even if they cannot afford it,
> or pay a fine, which results in people without health care and less money
> because of the fine.     
>> 
>> The honest case for the ACA is slim-to-nonexistent but its supporters do
> not even try to make a case --which is telling in itself--as they merely
> point to the increased number of people with "coverage" without noting the
> monetary inadequacy of the coverage. As these two articles point out the
> first in a very heart-rending way coverage by for-profit insurers is
> inherently in conflict with the needs of patients, this result of the ACA is
> also conveniently swept under the rug by the pro-ACA crowd.  Not only are
> the results of ACA meager, its high cost relative to results need to be
> highlighted as well as the fundamental reason for this result-- i.e., it was
> built on the dysfunctional pre-existing system of a for-profit health care
> system.  Also, I do not think it is a stretch to point out that the ACA has
> given a boost to the privatization of health care such as we are seeing in
> Illinois.  
>> 
>> 
>> My Insurance Company Killed Me, Despite Obamacare
>> 
>> Malcolm MacDougall's insurance company delayed and denied cancer
> treatments despite his premiums being paid. The Affordable Care Act did
> nothing to save his life.
>> 
>> View on www.thedailybeast...
>> 
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>> 
>> This second article is a bit more general critique of all for-profit
> insurance companies, not only health insurance ones.  But a lot of the
> examples relate to health care including the auto insurance example. 
>> 
>> 
> https://www.justice.org/sites/default/files/file-uploads/InsuranceTactics.pd
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