[Peace-discuss] [sf-core] FW: [IllinoisSinglePayer] "My insurace company killed me despite Obamacare" and Tricks of the insurance trade

[David Johnson via Peace-discuss]

" prevention health funding..."   ???

I am not certain what manifestation this has under the ACA ( Obamacare ) ?

David J.


-----Original Message-----
From: C. G. Estabrook [mailto:carl at newsfromneptune.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 10:54 AM
To: David Johnson
Subject: Re: [sf-core] FW: [IllinoisSinglePayer] "My insurace company killed
me despite Obamacare" and Tricks of the insurance trade

..."We had the votes in '09. We had a huge majority in the House, we had 60
votes in the Senate," [retiring Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA)] told The Hill,
saying that the first Congress of President Barack Obama's administration
should have passed "single-payer right from the get go or at least put a
public option (which) would have simplified a lot."

"We had the votes to do that and we blew it," he said. He decried that the
law as it exists is "really complicated" and benefits the insurance
companies, though he praised its prevention health funding...

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/tom-harkin-obamacare-single-payer-blew
-it


On Dec 3, 2014, at 10:05 AM, 'David Johnson' davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net
[sf-core] <sf-core-noreply at yahoogroups.com> wrote:

> Two articles that to my mind make in different ways strong arguments
against pro-profit health insurance, the first very personally tragic and
the second more legalistic and logical.  Since the ACA was written to extend
the insurance companies role in health care decisions.
> Basic results:  money is shoveled to insurance companies and people are
legally obligated to buy inadequate insurance even if they cannot afford it,
or pay a fine, which results in people without health care and less money
because of the fine.     
> 
> The honest case for the ACA is slim-to-nonexistent but its supporters do
not even try to make a case --which is telling in itself--as they merely
point to the increased number of people with "coverage" without noting the
monetary inadequacy of the coverage. As these two articles point out the
first in a very heart-rending way coverage by for-profit insurers is
inherently in conflict with the needs of patients, this result of the ACA is
also conveniently swept under the rug by the pro-ACA crowd.  Not only are
the results of ACA meager, its high cost relative to results need to be
highlighted as well as the fundamental reason for this result-- i.e., it was
built on the dysfunctional pre-existing system of a for-profit health care
system.  Also, I do not think it is a stretch to point out that the ACA has
given a boost to the privatization of health care such as we are seeing in
Illinois.  
> 
>   
> My Insurance Company Killed Me, Despite Obamacare
> 
> Malcolm MacDougall's insurance company delayed and denied cancer
treatments despite his premiums being paid. The Affordable Care Act did
nothing to save his life.
> 
> View on www.thedailybeast...
> 
> Preview by Yahoo
> 
> 
> This second article is a bit more general critique of all for-profit
insurance companies, not only health insurance ones.  But a lot of the
examples relate to health care including the auto insurance example. 
> 
>
https://www.justice.org/sites/default/files/file-uploads/InsuranceTactics.pd
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