[Peace-discuss] Germany's bizarre political context re Israel/Palestine

David Green via Peace-discuss peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
Mon Dec 8 13:48:31 EST 2014


Good to hear. 

     On Monday, December 8, 2014 12:04 PM, David Johnson <davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net> wrote:
   
 

 #yiv4689763870 #yiv4689763870 -- _filtered #yiv4689763870 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv4689763870 {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} _filtered #yiv4689763870 {font-family:Garamond;panose-1:2 2 4 4 3 3 1 1 8 3;}#yiv4689763870 #yiv4689763870 p.yiv4689763870MsoNormal, #yiv4689763870 li.yiv4689763870MsoNormal, #yiv4689763870 div.yiv4689763870MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv4689763870 a:link, #yiv4689763870 span.yiv4689763870MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4689763870 a:visited, #yiv4689763870 span.yiv4689763870MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4689763870 span.yiv4689763870EmailStyle18 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv4689763870 .yiv4689763870MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv4689763870 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv4689763870 div.yiv4689763870WordSection1 {}#yiv4689763870 This analysis is inaccurate !  In fact many right-wing Zionists have been trying over the last several years to make a claim that there is a “ growing anti-semitism  amongst the Left “ in Europe.I am not saying that there is no pro-Israel people on the left, like the former East German politician from the German “ Die Linke “ ( the Left ) party.However from what I have seen and heard, the vast majority of  THE REAL LEFT  as opposed to the phony Social Democrats, are anti-Zionist.They are also however very anti- religious fundamentalist rather it be fundamentalist Christian, Jew, Muslim, or Hindu.  They see religious fundamentalism as  right-wing. And I agree.  David Johnson      From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of David Green via Peace-discuss
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Subject: [Peace-discuss] Germany's bizarre political context re Israel/Palestine    https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/the-german-lefts-palestine-problem/  ...Newspapers like Jungle World that celebrate autonomy in Chiapas, queer politics, and radical ecology are stridently pro-Israel in their outlook. It’s not that all autonomists in Germany support Israel in every instance or are indifferent to the existence of Islamophobia. But openly questioning Israeli oppression of Palestinians is deemed out of bounds, since this could open the gates to existing latent antisemitism.When Israeli bombs fall on the Gaza Strip killing and maiming thousands, many from the alternative scene abstain from protesting in solidarity with the victims, arguing that since Hamas doesn’t present an “emancipatory alternative,” there isn’t really anyone the Left can embrace.In this, there is an uncomfortable and often unwilling convergence of autonomist discourses with the rampant Islamophobia currently plaguing Germany, with regular attacks on mosques coupled with calls on Muslims to “integrate” and “disassociate” themselves from ISIS. When a mob of five thousand hooligans, many of them active neo-Nazis, gathered in front of Cologne’s main train station on October 26 to protest “Salafism,” the far smaller counter-demonstration assembled under the abstract slogan “against racism and religious fundamentalism,” apparently eager to disassociate itself from the Salafism.This had the rather unsettling effect of equating young discriminated Muslims with the direct political heirs of Himmler and Goebbels.At a subsequent meeting convened to discuss the aftermath of the demonstration, I witnessed how left-oriented German students could genuinely not fathom why the counter-protest’s slogan was outright wrong. This drew the desperate ire of a comrade of Iranian background, a symptom perhaps of a deepening rift between significant parts of the Left and Muslims living in Germany.

 
   
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