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[Stan via Peace-discuss]

But he is thinking of running in the Dem primaries.

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"C. G. Estabrook" <carl at newsfromneptune.com> wrote:

>Sanders is not a Democrat.
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>Chief among those guys is the child-killer in the White House.
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>On Jul 13, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Stan <swag901 at ymail.com> wrote:
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>Yes they do have an anti war wing. It is called Berny Sanders.
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>The Dems have been co opted by guys that want to split the anti war Dems out of the Democratic Party.
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>"C. G. Estabrook" <carl at newsfromneptune.com> wrote:
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>'We' are not doing much of a job. The Republican party has an anti-war wing, but Obama has co-opted the Democrats'.
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>On Jul 12, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Stan via OccupyCU <occupycu at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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>So you agree we need to take back the Democratic Party. Thanks
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>"C. G. Estabrook" <carl at newsfromneptune.com> wrote:
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>The Tea Party is the best thing that's happened to the Democrats recently.  
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>They can run against it vociferously while continuing to implement neoconservative policies (killing people abroad) and neoliberal policies (impoverishing people at home), both for the profits of the 1%. 
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>On Jul 12, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Stan via OccupyCU <occupycu at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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>Many good points here. The most extreme conservatives have wrapped themselves in the Tea Party and become a driving force in the Republican Party. We need to join together and take back the Democratic Party in a similar way and move the Democratic Party to a more pro democracy party than it is today.
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>"C. G. Estabrook via OccupyCU" <occupycu at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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>We might quibble over the usage of terms like 'fascist,' but this account is clearly accurate - and important. 
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>Lacking an accurate analysis, the best will in the world can choose the right course only by accident.  
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>--CGE
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>On Jul 11, 2014, at 10:12 PM, ewjohnson via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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>The US is a fascist state managed by a well entrenched oligarchy.
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>The oligarchy does definitely fear that an organized uprising of the people
>may weaken and erode its position resulting in haemorrhage of money,
>power, and territory.
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>The oligarchy manages the world's largest propaganda and opinion-shaping
>and panem et circenses machine that uses every possible measure to achieve its
>goals in mollifying the masses and nullifying any effective negativity.
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>The oligarchy has chosen to deflect political pressures by allowing the 
>establishment of a pair of ruling factions.  The two ruling factions are
>actually essentially the same but the members and supporters and operatives
>of each faction believe that they are poles apart in their ideology and goodness,
>much like the rival teams and their fans in a sporting contest.  Some of them
>are true believers in their parties and it is downright comical to to observe
>them in motion.  Dog-fighting and cock-fighting are considered to be too
>brutish for the sensitive and cultured society.  Other outlets are provided.
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>A complex system of rules and regulations prevents the entrance of significant
>new factions that might be supported by the people themselves.  For example
>the people are encouraged to vote as if it were a patriotic duty, but the candidates
>are selected and supported by the oligarchy and its fascist and crony capitalist network,
>such that in general it would not matter much who was elected, because the system
>has been established to be robust against change.  The oligarchy has recognized that
>its power and control are not absolute and it is careful not to overextend the most 
>extreme measures of its force domestically due to fear of a destabilizing outcome.
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>The oligarchy extends its tentacles around the world.
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>Like a daemon that has wrapped itself around the spine of its host and 
>has interfaced with the host's body control systems and higher functions,
>the daemonic oligarchy has made the people dependent upon it such
>that an eviction notice  would evoke tremulous and even catastrophic
>consequences.  The natural guards of liberty have been perverted
>unto the protection of the status quo.
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>Violent overthrow seems a possible recourse.  However, a organized
>violent uprising or even the use of passive force by the people is met
>with sudden repression by the police state.  Afterwards the entrenched
>political parties are summoned in to vacuum up any energy generated
>by a new uprising.
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>It is disturbing to see activists getting their energies sucked up by the Borg
>of one of the sham political parties or the other one.
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