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Sun Jul 13 22:44:53 EDT 2014

Sanders is not a Democrat.

Chief among those guys is the child-killer in the White House.

On Jul 13, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Stan <swag901 at ymail.com> wrote:

> Yes they do have an anti war wing. It is called Berny Sanders.
> The Dems have been co opted by guys that want to split the anti war Dems out of the Democratic Party.
> 
> 
> "C. G. Estabrook" <carl at newsfromneptune.com> wrote:
> 
> 'We' are not doing much of a job. The Republican party has an anti-war wing, but Obama has co-opted the Democrats'.
> 
> 
> On Jul 12, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Stan via OccupyCU <occupycu at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
> 
>> So you agree we need to take back the Democratic Party. Thanks
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
>> 
>> 
>> "C. G. Estabrook" <carl at newsfromneptune.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The Tea Party is the best thing that's happened to the Democrats recently.  
>> 
>> They can run against it vociferously while continuing to implement neoconservative policies (killing people abroad) and neoliberal policies (impoverishing people at home), both for the profits of the 1%. 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Stan via OccupyCU <occupycu at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> CC: 
>>> 
>>> Many good points here. The most extreme conservatives have wrapped themselves in the Tea Party and become a driving force in the Republican Party. We need to join together and take back the Democratic Party in a similar way and move the Democratic Party to a more pro democracy party than it is today.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "C. G. Estabrook via OccupyCU" <occupycu at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> We might quibble over the usage of terms like 'fascist,' but this account is clearly accurate - and important. 
>>> 
>>> Lacking an accurate analysis, the best will in the world can choose the right course only by accident.  
>>> 
>>> --CGE
>>> 
>>> On Jul 11, 2014, at 10:12 PM, ewjohnson via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The US is a fascist state managed by a well entrenched oligarchy.
>>>> 
>>>> The oligarchy does definitely fear that an organized uprising of the people
>>>> may weaken and erode its position resulting in haemorrhage of money,
>>>> power, and territory.
>>>> 
>>>> The oligarchy manages the world's largest propaganda and opinion-shaping
>>>> and panem et circenses machine that uses every possible measure to achieve its
>>>> goals in mollifying the masses and nullifying any effective negativity.
>>>> 
>>>> The oligarchy has chosen to deflect political pressures by allowing the 
>>>> establishment of a pair of ruling factions.  The two ruling factions are
>>>> actually essentially the same but the members and supporters and operatives
>>>> of each faction believe that they are poles apart in their ideology and goodness,
>>>> much like the rival teams and their fans in a sporting contest.  Some of them
>>>> are true believers in their parties and it is downright comical to to observe
>>>> them in motion.  Dog-fighting and cock-fighting are considered to be too
>>>> brutish for the sensitive and cultured society.  Other outlets are provided.
>>>> 
>>>> A complex system of rules and regulations prevents the entrance of significant
>>>> new factions that might be supported by the people themselves.  For example
>>>> the people are encouraged to vote as if it were a patriotic duty, but the candidates
>>>> are selected and supported by the oligarchy and its fascist and crony capitalist network,
>>>> such that in general it would not matter much who was elected, because the system
>>>> has been established to be robust against change.  The oligarchy has recognized that
>>>> its power and control are not absolute and it is careful not to overextend the most 
>>>> extreme measures of its force domestically due to fear of a destabilizing outcome.
>>>> 
>>>> The oligarchy extends its tentacles around the world.
>>>> 
>>>> Like a daemon that has wrapped itself around the spine of its host and 
>>>> has interfaced with the host's body control systems and higher functions,
>>>> the daemonic oligarchy has made the people dependent upon it such
>>>> that an eviction notice  would evoke tremulous and even catastrophic
>>>> consequences.  The natural guards of liberty have been perverted
>>>> unto the protection of the status quo.
>>>> 
>>>> Violent overthrow seems a possible recourse.  However, a organized
>>>> violent uprising or even the use of passive force by the people is met
>>>> with sudden repression by the police state.  Afterwards the entrenched
>>>> political parties are summoned in to vacuum up any energy generated
>>>> by a new uprising.
>>>> 
>>>> It is disturbing to see activists getting their energies sucked up by the Borg
>>>> of one of the sham political parties or the other one.
>>>> 
>>> ###
>>> 
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