[Peace-discuss] Calculate odds of 2 Malaysian Air Boeing 777s crashing within 4 months ... Israel???

ewjohnson via Peace-discuss peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
Sun Jul 27 18:31:55 EDT 2014 

The overwhelming event here is being blasted out of the sky by a rocket.

Crashing after a rocket strike is fairly standard.

The possibilities are cut way back when you consider how many
carriers have flights through there, and what the types of airplanes 
that make
the trip.

It is a hostile Zone.

But for travelers and the management of Malaysian Airlines it
it seems like bad karma catching up or some such thing,
not a random event.

It seems like a shoot first ask questions later situation relative to 
those on the ground
with the artillery.

"When you have to shoot, shoot.  Don't talk."  -Tuco.


On 07/27/2014 06:28 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote:
> I'm looking forward to all the tinfoil comments I'll receive from 
> this, but the math doesn't lie.
>
> In the U.S. the odds are 1 in 270,417  (9,748,551 commercial 
> flights/36.5 US commercial crashes) of being killed in a commercial 
> plane crash. avg. # commercial flights @yr / avg # crashes @ yr. = 
> odds of a specific flight crashing
> also see: http://www.planecrashinfo.com/cause.htm 
> <http://www.planecrashinfo.com/cause.htm>
> and globally it's very safe to fly: In 1998, the world’s commercial 
> jet airlines carried approximately 1.3 billion people on 18 million 
> flights while suffering 10 fatal accidents.  (18,000,000/10).... one 
> in 180,000,000
> So....
> To calculate odds of one of us being killed in a Boeing 777 plane and 
> belonging to Malaysian Airlines would be 180,000,000 x # different 
> commercial aircraft x # of commercial airline companies.  Let's say 
> 200 kinds of planes to just make a wild guess and 200 commercial 
> airline companies  So now the odds of crashing in a 777s are 
> 180,000,000 x 200 x 200....it's in the one in trillions range (7.2 
> E+12).... a calculator can't display it without scientific notation.
>
> Or the odds of two Boeing 777s belonging to Malaysian Airlines 
> crashing would be one in 18 million x 200 x 200 = (1:7.2 
> E+11)....astronomically unlikely....not even considering the crashes 
> happening within 4 months of each other....???
> I'm dangerous at mathematics and these numbers could be substantially 
> wrong , but are not unreasonable.... and this is getting way over my 
> head....but has something to do with:
> (n2)p2(1−p)n−2 or 1−p0(1−p)n−0−np1(1−p)n−1
>
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>
> In other words the plane crashes are related somehow beyond the 
> possibility of pure chance!
> Jim Fetzer is on to something?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17
>
> Photograph of the missing aircraft taking off at Roissy-Charles de 
> Gaulle Airport (LFPG) in France, 2011
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysian_Airlines_MH370
>
> and there is an interesting buzz (Daily Paul) about an identical plane 
> being stored in Israel.....Just sayin'
>
> Why is a Malaysian Airliner Identical to the Missing One Being Stored 
> in Tel Aviv? | Peace . Gold . LOVE 
> <http://www.dailypaul.com/315435/why-is-a-malaysian-airliner-identical-to-the-missing-one-being-stored-in-tel-aviv>
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> Why is a Malaysian Airliner Identical to the Missing One... 
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> What are the odds? Why would Israel have a plane identical to the 
> missing Malaysia Airlines plane in storage in Tel Aviv?
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> View on www.dailypaul.com 
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> On Saturday, July 26, 2014 8:21 PM, ewjohnson via Peace-discuss 
> <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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>
> wikipaedia saith regarding Godfrey's demise:
>
> On 21 December, Miles Prance, Catholic servant-in-ordinary to 
> England's Catholic Queen consort, Catherine of Braganza, was arrested 
> and taken to Newgate prison. His lodger (who was in debt to Prance), 
> John Wren, testified that he had been away for the four nights before 
> Godfrey's body was discovered. Bedloe claimed to recognize him. Both 
> statements are now thought to be lies, but this did not help Prance.
>
> On 23 – 24 December, Prance announced that he had had a part in the 
> murder but that the main instigators were three Catholic priests: 
> Thomas Godden, head of the secular English clergy, and two Irish 
> priests, Kelly and Fitzgerald. These priests witnessed the murder in 
> the courtyard of Somerset House where Godfrey had been lured. Godfrey 
> had been strangled and his body taken to Hampstead. Prance named as 
> the actual killers three working men, Robert Green, Henry Berry and 
> Lawrence Hill, who were arrested. Godden fled the country, while the 
> two Irish priests simply vanished. As with most solutions to the 
> murder, the main weakness was the absence of a plausible motive. 
> Prance could only say, vaguely, that Godfrey had been harassing the 
> priests in some way, which seems unlikely as he was noted for 
> tolerance in religious matters.
>
> Prance later recanted his confession before the king and the council 
> and was thrown back to prison: he was threatened with torture, and 
> nearly froze to death.   As a result he recanted his recantation and 
> recanted two more times, ending up verifying his original story. At 
> the trial he was a highly credible witness, although Hill's wife 
> rightly prophesied "we shall see him recant after, when it is too 
> late". [10]The three men were sentenced to death 5 February 1679 and 
> hanged at Primrose Hill./For a time this was known as "Greenberry 
> Hill", because of the hangings of Green, Berry and Hill./
>
> Prance's story was later discredited and he pleaded guilty to perjury. 
> Because the three men were executed on false evidence, and historians 
> accept their complete innocence, the murder remains officially unsolved.
>
> ....
>
> There have been many theories of what really happened to Godfrey and 
> who killed him. He might have been murdered either by Catholics, who 
> could have been afraid that he knew some of their/*real secrets*/; 
> supporters of Oates because of his contacts to Catholics or because he 
> knew Oates was lying; or just by random hooligans. Some claim suicide, 
> either because Godfrey was in a quandary between Catholics and 
> Anglicans and, due to his contacts to Coleman, possibly under 
> suspicion or just because of his melancholy nature.
>
> [There is no mention whatsoever of/*Jewry*/, so I find the whole
> matter to be highly suspicious. - ewj]
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> On 07/27/2014 10:56 AM, ewjohnson via Peace-discuss wrote:
> I think this should help clear things up:
>
> "In the /New York Herald,/ Nov. 26, 1911, there is an account of the 
> hanging of three men, for the murder of Sir Edmund Berry Godfrey, on 
> Greenberry Hill, London.^The names of the murderers were Green, Berry, 
> and Hill."  - Charles Hoy Fort, "Wild Talents", 1932.
>
> In correspondence to H. Allen Smith in 1932, H. L. Mencken denounced 
> Charles Fort as a */quack/*. (quoted in H. A. Smith, "Low Man on a 
> Totem Pole", 1941).
>
> Accounts of Fort and the Fortean Society generally quote HL Mencken as 
> a follower of Fort, a thing which Mencken vehemently denies in his 
> correspondence to Smith (see above), who had included Mencken's name 
> among other Forteans in an 1932 obituary of CH Fort.
>
> PS:  C.H. Fort did not invent FORTRAN.
>
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> On 07/27/2014 06:59 AM, David Gehrig via Peace-discuss wrote:
> On Jul 26, 2014, at 5:45 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss 
> <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net 
> <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
>
>> David,
>> I can't help just being a product of my research....
>
> When you're "researching" in a sewer, it's no surprise that everything 
> you fish out is a pile of crap.
>
> For the heck of it, I wandered over to "Veterans Today," the toilet 
> you mistake for a feeding trough. Foilhatted Fetzer has figured out 
> who knocked down MH17: Israel, of course! "In case anyone misses the 
> point, the plane that went down in Ukraine appears to be the same 
> plane that disappeared in Southeast Asia, Malaysian 370. The 
> passengers appear to have been killed, perhaps en route to Diego 
> Garcia, and the plane taken to Ukraine as part of an Israeli plan to 
> distract attention from its slaughter in Gaza."
>
> Lunatic. Just a freakin' ravin' lunatic. But you'll follow him 
> anywhere, even into Holocaust denial. Why? Because "Veterans Today" 
> has eaten your brain.
>
>> Every piece of history can be connected to it precisely because
>
> Precisely because you're insane.
>
> @%<
>
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