[Peace-discuss] [OccupyCU] denial...

[C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss]

Asking or advising Francis and Gehrig to stop posting to a political discussion list is one thing; preventing their doing so is quite another. 

The latter clearly violates principles of free expression. Use your 'delete' key.

"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." (Chomsky)

--CGE

On Jun 23, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Ian K via OccupyCU <occupycu at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

> I am with Stuart. I thought these lists were for coalition building and aligning our progressive efforts toward a common cause. Hijacking the list for a personal cause, even in self-defense, hurts your cause and the spirit of community action.
> 
> I suggest this course of action. If you offer something that the community does not engage in a positive way, take your agenda elsewhere. If someone proposes an agenda with which you disagree, ignore it and let it fall by the wayside. If, on the off chance everyone on the list begins to deny the holocaust or the heliocentric model, then leave the list.
> 
> Movements are torn apart be egocentric defense of ideas. Coalitions need common effort. They do not need complete agreement on all issues. If we are divided, we cannot act as a group. If we cannot coordinate on common causes, a people's movement will fail. The one percent have a common cause: preserve and increase class privilege. They also have money, the courts and the ear of every American politician. We only have each other. When that is threatened, they win . . . as they have for the last 40 years. 
> 
> Take detailed critiques of one another off list. Please. 
> 
> Ian
> 
> IKD
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Stuart Levy via OccupyCU <occupycu at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
> I don't know about others here, but I'm really tired of hearing about the Nazi holocaust, pro or con.
> 
> Stephen and David, could you please stop pushing each others' buttons?   Or if you must, please take your discussion *off these mailing lists*.
> 
> Personally I don't take the issue much more seriously than I do advocacy for a geocentric universe.   I prefer the Copernican model, but I'm not going to waste time in public defending it.    There are open questions in astronomy but that isn't among them.   There is plenty of room to be critical of the current Israeli government (and of the US' enabling of its colonial behavior) without supposing that the number of Jews killed by Germany had been insignificant.
> 
> We have more important things to talk about, for heaven's sake. Instead of flame wars, can we talk about what is happening in, and what we can do to oppose, real, present, and impending wars?
> _______________________________________________
> OccupyCU mailing list
> OccupyCU at lists.chambana.net
> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/occupycu
> 
> _______________________________________________
> OccupyCU mailing list
> OccupyCU at lists.chambana.net
> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/occupycu

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.chambana.net/pipermail/peace-discuss/attachments/20140623/fc955b8c/attachment-0001.html>