[Peace-discuss] [OccupyCU] denial denial, etc etc - Enough, already, please ... Let's talk about real wars, not flame wars.

"e.w.johnson 朱稳森" via Peace-discuss peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
Mon Jun 23 23:01:26 EDT 2014


it is really not fair taunting Gehrig but he is sort of like one of those
Chatty Cathy (mattel®) dolls with the r. lee armey upgrade that you
pull the string and all this wonderfully creative blasphemy pours forth...

Sort of like rosanne rosannadanna x andrew dice clay with tourette's
not really threatening but sort of amusing in its way.


On 06/24/2014 10:22 AM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote:
> There is a huge effort centered around Israel and US bankers and the 
> MIC to start WWIII and there is an even larger effort by Putin and 
> other cool heads to stop that war because of their knowledge of how 
> wars were started in the past. They are deftly aware of false flag 
> attacks and manipulations like 9/11, Gulf of Tonkin, Lusitania, 
> Archduke Ferdinand, Iraq WMD? Libya 'humanitarianism, Syria 
> 'humanitarianism and how they lead to war and selective regime change.
>
> The Harriman, Dulles and Bush Crime Family (patriarch Samuel P. Bush) 
> of Nazi Germany knew all about this and the Bushes are still with us.
>
> Oh and.... I must have struck a note with CGE to get him to bring out 
> his favorite 9/11 gatekeeper.... Chomsky.
>
> The 'nasty fantasy' is denying what I'm saying is true.
>
>
> On Monday, June 23, 2014 5:41 PM, Roger Helbig <rwhelbig at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Stephen,
> You live in a very nasty, dangerous FANTASY world - if you really 
> would not have enjoyed being a storm trooper in Nazi Germany, you 
> really should look at yourself in a mirror and change!  Just saw the 
> movie A Coffee in Berlin last night - there is a scene near the end 
> where an older man describes his father taking him out to pick up 
> stones and smash windows.  You should watch that and think because 
> seriously, you don't seem to be doing much of that in your lemming world.
> Roger
> ref - http://www.musicboxfilms.com/a-coffee-in-berlin-movies-79.php
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss 
> <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net 
> <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
>
>     The deligitimization effort, 9/11 Truth, BDS, refusal to recognize
>     Israel's existence and the exposure of the Holocaust hoax ARE the
>     only ways to really pressure Israel to make any substantial changes.
>     Israel will probably not go away, but it doesn't have to have the
>     form it's in now.
>     Standing on a street corner or yapping about Israel's obvious
>     oppressive behavior is just ineffective dribble.
>     I understand yours and most people's position on the Holocaust and
>     am just 'NOT preaching to the choir'.
>     I'll back off on the Holocaust subject only because it is
>     saturated to the point of ad nauseum at this point.
>     There are plenty of other ways that are more subtle, digestible
>     and more effective in making my point.
>     There are highly relevant connections between the people running
>     Obama, the Bush Crime Family, Soros, Neocons, and Zionists past
>     and present. Those people are operating under the same rules that
>     created the Holocaust hoax and are still profiting from them.
>     Just look to Ukraine, Syria, Libya and Iraq for starters. The real
>     motives behind these past and present events are not discussed in
>     the MSM. It's all connected.
>     I've got to take a break from this list and just do research for a
>     while so as to not annoy people who are too set in their beliefs.
>
>
>
>
>
>     On Monday, June 23, 2014 1:19 PM, Stan via Peace-discuss
>     <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
>     <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
>
>
>     Thank you Stuart. We can not change the past. It is what it is. We
>     just might be able to change the future by focusing on that and
>     letting the past be in the past.
>
>     /Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID/
>
>
>     Stuart Levy via OccupyCU <occupycu at lists.chambana.net
>     <mailto:occupycu at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
>
>     I don't know about others here, but I'm really tired of hearing about
>     the Nazi holocaust, pro or con.
>
>     Stephen and David, could you please stop pushing each others'
>     buttons?
>     Or if you must, please take your discussion *off these mailing lists*.
>
>     Personally I don't take the issue much more seriously than I do
>     advocacy
>     for a geocentric universe.   I prefer the Copernican model, but
>     I'm not
>     going to waste time in public defending it.    There are open
>     questions
>     in astronomy but that isn't among them.   There is plenty of room
>     to be
>     critical of the current Israeli government (and of the US'
>     enabling of
>     its colonial behavior) without supposing that the number of Jews
>     killed
>     by Germany had been insignificant.
>
>     We have more important things to talk about, for heaven's sake.
>     Instead
>     of flame wars, can we talk about what is happening in, and what we
>     can
>     do to oppose, real, present, and impending wars?
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