[Peace-discuss] [OccupyCU] denial denial, etc etc - Enough, already, please ... Let's talk about real wars, not flame wars.

Mon Jun 23 23:04:22 EDT 2014

or the coca-cola version:

"bite the wax tadpole".

On 06/24/2014 11:01 AM, "e.w.johnson 朱稳森" via Peace-discuss wrote:
> it is really not fair taunting Gehrig but he is sort of like one of those
> Chatty Cathy (mattel®) dolls with the r. lee armey upgrade that you
> pull the string and all this wonderfully creative blasphemy pours forth...
>
> Sort of like rosanne rosannadanna x andrew dice clay with tourette's
> not really threatening but sort of amusing in its way.
>
>
> On 06/24/2014 10:22 AM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss wrote:
>> There is a huge effort centered around Israel and US bankers and the 
>> MIC to start WWIII and there is an even larger effort by Putin and 
>> other cool heads to stop that war because of their knowledge of how 
>> wars were started in the past. They are deftly aware of false flag 
>> attacks and manipulations like 9/11, Gulf of Tonkin, Lusitania, 
>> Archduke Ferdinand, Iraq WMD? Libya 'humanitarianism, Syria 
>> 'humanitarianism and how they lead to war and selective regime change.
>>
>> The Harriman, Dulles and Bush Crime Family (patriarch Samuel P. Bush) 
>> of Nazi Germany knew all about this and the Bushes are still with us.
>>
>> Oh and.... I must have struck a note with CGE to get him to bring out 
>> his favorite 9/11 gatekeeper.... Chomsky.
>>
>> The 'nasty fantasy' is denying what I'm saying is true.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, June 23, 2014 5:41 PM, Roger Helbig <rwhelbig at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Stephen,
>> You live in a very nasty, dangerous FANTASY world - if you really 
>> would not have enjoyed being a storm trooper in Nazi Germany, you 
>> really should look at yourself in a mirror and change!  Just saw the 
>> movie A Coffee in Berlin last night - there is a scene near the end 
>> where an older man describes his father taking him out to pick up 
>> stones and smash windows.  You should watch that and think because 
>> seriously, you don't seem to be doing much of that in your lemming world.
>> Roger
>> ref - http://www.musicboxfilms.com/a-coffee-in-berlin-movies-79.php
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss 
>> <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net 
>> <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     The deligitimization effort, 9/11 Truth, BDS, refusal to
>>     recognize Israel's existence and the exposure of the Holocaust
>>     hoax ARE the only ways to really pressure Israel to make any
>>     substantial changes.
>>     Israel will probably not go away, but it doesn't have to have the
>>     form it's in now.
>>     Standing on a street corner or yapping about Israel's obvious
>>     oppressive behavior is just ineffective dribble.
>>     I understand yours and most people's position on the Holocaust
>>     and am just 'NOT preaching to the choir'.
>>     I'll back off on the Holocaust subject only because it is
>>     saturated to the point of ad nauseum at this point.
>>     There are plenty of other ways that are more subtle, digestible
>>     and more effective in making my point.
>>     There are highly relevant connections between the people running
>>     Obama, the Bush Crime Family, Soros, Neocons, and Zionists past
>>     and present. Those people are operating under the same rules that
>>     created the Holocaust hoax and are still profiting from them.
>>     Just look to Ukraine, Syria, Libya and Iraq for starters. The
>>     real motives behind these past and present events are not
>>     discussed in the MSM. It's all connected.
>>     I've got to take a break from this list and just do research for
>>     a while so as to not annoy people who are too set in their beliefs.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Monday, June 23, 2014 1:19 PM, Stan via Peace-discuss
>>     <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
>>     <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>     Thank you Stuart. We can not change the past. It is what it is.
>>     We just might be able to change the future by focusing on that
>>     and letting the past be in the past.
>>
>>     /Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID/
>>
>>
>>     Stuart Levy via OccupyCU <occupycu at lists.chambana.net
>>     <mailto:occupycu at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     I don't know about others here, but I'm really tired of hearing
>>     about
>>     the Nazi holocaust, pro or con.
>>
>>     Stephen and David, could you please stop pushing each others'
>>     buttons?
>>     Or if you must, please take your discussion *off these mailing
>>     lists*.
>>
>>     Personally I don't take the issue much more seriously than I do
>>     advocacy
>>     for a geocentric universe. I prefer the Copernican model, but I'm
>>     not
>>     going to waste time in public defending it. There are open questions
>>     in astronomy but that isn't among them.   There is plenty of room
>>     to be
>>     critical of the current Israeli government (and of the US'
>>     enabling of
>>     its colonial behavior) without supposing that the number of Jews
>>     killed
>>     by Germany had been insignificant.
>>
>>     We have more important things to talk about, for heaven's sake.
>>     Instead
>>     of flame wars, can we talk about what is happening in, and what
>>     we can
>>     do to oppose, real, present, and impending wars?
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