[Peace-discuss] Congress: no $$ for war without debate & vote

Tue Nov 18 10:03:59 EST 2014

I look forward to receiving invitations on this list to future public
activities in Champaign-Urbana on the war attempting to engage Congress,
organized by Carl and Karen.

So far, I see nothing going on. Is there a lot of activity going on in C-U
that I don't know about? Why aren't invitations to these wonderful
activities being posted on this list?

Robert Naiman
Policy Director
Just Foreign Policy
www.justforeignpolicy.org
naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
(202) 448-2898 x1

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I  agree with Carl, while  I understand how one might feel that going to
> war without congressional approval is wrong, and we should request
> congressional approval as a matter of process, in hopes that funding war
> will be rejected, nonetheless I agree that the "big picture" requires we
> insist on no war rather than permission or funding for war.
>
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> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 14:52:11 -0600
> To: naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
> CC: peace-discuss at anti-war.net; sf-core at yahoogroups.com;
> occupy.cu at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Congress: no $$ for war without debate & vote
> From: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
>
>
> We should urge our representative and senators to oppose any funding for
> war, period.
>
> A Congressional "authorization for the use of force" cannot make mass
> murder legal under international law.
>
> America's criminal war-making (and provocations of Russia and China) is in
> aid of the economic advantage of the American one percent - via their
> control of the Eurasian economy - and monstrously dangerous to the rest of
> the world, including Americans, who pay for it.
>
> We should instead call upon the Congress to institute impeachment
> proceedings against the war-makers in the US government, starting with the
> President.
>
>
> On Nov 17, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Robert Naiman <noreply at list.moveon.org>
> wrote:
>
> Dear C. G. Estabrook,
>
> The Pentagon has requested $5 billion in new funding for the new war in
> Iraq and Syria. *But Congress has not yet debated and voted on an
> authorization for the use of military force* [AUMF] [1], and *budget
> watchdog groups say the Pentagon can easily find the money in the massive
> budgets it already has*. [2]
>
> *Urge your Representative and Senators to oppose* any new funding for war
> in Iraq and Syria until Congress has debated and voted on an authorization
> for the use of force and the Pentagon has explained why it needs more money
> on top of the massive budgets it already has, *by signing our petition at
> MoveOn*.
>
> *http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/no-war-money-without-debate*
> <http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/no-war-money-without-debate>
>
> I explained why the idea of Congress giving the Pentagon new tax dollars
> for the war before Congress debates and votes on an AUMF is outrageous six
> ways from Sunday in a piece at Truthout. *You can read and share that
> here:*
>
>
> *http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/27478-5-billion-for-iraq-syria-war-three-reasons-to-oppose*
> <http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/27478-5-billion-for-iraq-syria-war-three-reasons-to-oppose>
>
> Here is the text of our petition at MoveOn:
>
> "Members of Congress should oppose any new funding for war in Iraq and
> Syria until Congress has debated and voted on an Authorization for the Use
> of Military Force [AUMF] and the Pentagon has explained why it needs more
> money on top of the massive budgets it already has."
>
> *Urge your Representative and Senators to stand up for transparency and
> accountability by signing and sharing our petition:*
>
> *http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/no-war-money-without-debate*
> <http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/no-war-money-without-debate>
>
> Thanks for all you do to help end, limit, and constrain war using
> democracy and the rule of law,
>
> Robert Naiman
> Just Foreign Policy
>
> References:
> 1. “Democratic Sen. Tim Kaine: We're in ISIS war 'without legal
> authority,'” Laura Koran and Ashley Killough, CNN, November 12, 2014,
> http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/12/politics/tim-kaine-isis/index.html
> 2. “The Pentagon's Budget Bamboozle: Lawmakers should look very closely at
> the latest Pentagon funding request,” Ryan Alexander, Taxpayers for Common
> Sense, U.S. News & World Report, Nov. 12, 2014,
> http://www.usnews.com/opinion/economic-intelligence/2014/11/12/congress-should-look-closely-at-pentagon-overseas-funding-requests
>
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