[Peace-discuss] @ the Art: "Kill the Messenger" docdrama on natl security journalism martyr Gary Webb

Sun Oct 19 19:51:24 EDT 2014

I think the contrasts between The Real News Network and DN are instructive, but I watch them both. TRNN is 99.9% free of identity politics.

DG 

On Sunday, October 19, 2014 2:46 PM, Robert Naiman via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

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>Here are some key sources in the debate now raging over "Kill the Messenger," one opposed to the movie, two in support:
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>Jeff Leen: Gary Webb was no journalism hero, despite what ‘Kill the Messenger’ says
>http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/gary-webb-was-no-journalism-hero-despite-what-kill-the-messenger-says/2014/10/17/026b7560-53c9-11e4-809b-8cc0a295c773_story.html
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>Robert Parry: WPost’s Slimy Assault on Gary Webb
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>http://consortiumnews.com/2014/10/18/wposts-slimy-assault-on-gary-webb/
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>Jeff Cohen: The Resurrection of Reporter Gary Webb: Will Hollywood Give Him Last Word Against the CIA's Media Apologists?
>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-cohen/the-resurrection-of-repor_b_5939914.html
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>Robert Naiman
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>Just Foreign Policy
>http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/
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>On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>Robert, I didn't mean to criticize you, but rather point out the many sources of information available to us today if one is willing to make the effort. I agree if one only listens or views DemocracyNow, or any one source of information,  they would be getting only one perspective, that's the issue. 
>>It's rather like a college student who only reads the one assigned text, he will be merely a pawn of the establishment. We must at all times "expand" our efforts to gain knowledge.
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>>I was actually hoping to elicit more dialog related to more sources of information available for those out there who think only the "mainstream" media is what we need to read and critique.  
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>>To: karenaram at hotmail.com
>>CC: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
>>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] @ the Art: "Kill the Messenger" docdrama on natl security journalism martyr Gary Webb
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>>From: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
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>>I did not say that "there is no alternative." I said that we have no alternative to consuming mainstream media. 
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>>Democracy Now makes a wonderful contribution. But it's mainly an interview show, that also has a short "headlines" feature that echoes stories from mainstream media. It doesn't do much original investigative reporting. It's not, for the most part, doing what Gary Webb did and investigative journalists do. That's not a criticism, necessarily; if you do one thing well, it doesn't mean that you do everything well; it's not a damning criticism to say that someone doesn't do everything well; the fundamental problem isn't that there is something lacking in Democracy Now; the fundamental problem is thinking that Democracy Now is doing something that it's not capable of doing. If the only news source you consume directly is Democracy Now, you're still consuming mainstream media - you're just doing it through a filter constructed by Democracy Now. Constructing that filter is certainly a useful function, and it certainly makes consuming the news more palatable
 for leftists, but you're still mostly consuming news originally produced by mainstream media. Democracy Now is reading the New York Times on your behalf and highlighting particular things. It's a dangerous illusion to think that getting all your news from Democracy Now protects you from the biases of mainstream news in the United States. It's one piece of the puzzle; it's not the whole puzzle.
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>>Just Foreign Policy
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>>naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
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>>On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>>Excellent review of the film "Kill the Messenger", thank you. I do challenge your last statement that "there is no alternative to US main stream media", or rather our corporate owned media, there is however "Democracy Now", " The Thom Hartmann Show", "Aware on the Air", " News from Neptune" all on UPTV 6, and RT News, though no criticism of Russia takes place, also does a good job of covering international news on station Mhztv, along with Peter Lavelle's "Crosstalk" on Sundays which like NFN offers more indepth analysis. I am just referring to the tv programs which challenge mainstream media. There are many links, blogs, etc. out there, not to mention some of the radio programs.  The only newspaper I have come across is the Public I published here locally. 
>>>"Democracy Now" did cover the film "Kill the Messenger," and the actual events of the time, a couple weeks ago.
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>>>If we think the food might be poisoned maybe we shouldn't eat it at all.  
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>>>Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 12:27:19 -0500
>>>To: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
>>>Subject: [Peace-discuss] @ the Art: "Kill the Messenger" docdrama on natl security journalism martyr Gary Webb
>>>From: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
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>>>By happy chance, I saw the movie "Kill the Messenger" at the Art last night. I say happy chance because I had never heard of the movie until I saw it listed on the marquee. I happened to be downtown and thought, what's at the Art?
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>>>Folks who were active in the Central America solidarity movement will remember that Gary Webb, a journalist at the San Jose Mercury News, "broke the story" in mainstream media terms about how the CIA supported drug-runners during the Contra war and "looked the other way" (at least) while these drug-runners brought cocaine into the United States, fueling the "crack cocaine epidemic" in urban America.
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>>>But for an audience today, the story of the movie that is to me so resonant and powerful is not that the CIA supported drug runners without a care to the consequences of that for urban Americans; that's old news. The story of the movie that is resonant and powerful today is how mainstream American journalism betrayed Gary Webb. Instead of following up the story, newspapers like the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, and the New York Times set out to destroy Gary Webb. 
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>>>This was a guy who was established in his career as an investigative journalist. If you look at his entry on Wikipedia, every year or so he got another award for investigative journalism for publicly exposing wrongdoing by powerful bad guys, for things he wrote alone or with others. 
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>>>He didn't set out to expose wrongdoing by powerful bad guys in the U.S. government. He stumbled across it. But having done so, he wouldn't accept the idea that exposing wrongdoing by powerful bad guys in the U.S. government was off-limits. He thought that was part of his job, too. It reminded me of the young prosecutor in the Costa-Gavras movie "Z," who didn't get the memo that the generals in the Greek military junta were off-limits. 
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>>>For his service to the public, mainstream American journalism destroyed Gary Webb's career and destroyed his life. 
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>>>I highly recommend seeing the movie, particularly for its portrayal of the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times. These are good images to keep in mind as we consume mainstream U.S. media. We have no alternative to consuming mainstream U.S. media, just like someone in prison has no alternative to eating the prison food. But if we think that the food might be poisoned, we should eat it very carefully. 
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>>>Robert Naiman
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>>>Just Foreign Policy
>>>http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/
>>>naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
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