[Peace-discuss] Our Senator, Mark Kirk, jumps the shark on Iran deal

[Robert Naiman]

Let me know how that Kirk primary challenger thing goes. If you can find a
Tea Party person to challenge Kirk who supports diplomacy with Iran, I will
send them a campaign donation.




Robert Naiman
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On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 10:53 AM, C. G. Estabrook <carl at newsfromneptune.com>
wrote:

> That’s the sort of false alternative ("pure evil and swings both ways”)
> that sees Obama’s war policy as a reversal of Bush’s rather than a
> continuation.
>
> Obama has attacked eight countries (while Bush only attacked six) and is
> conducting the “the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times.”
>
> We should be organizing opposition to him in Congress, rather than support.
>
> And in fact it’s marginally more likely that Kirk will have a primary
> challenger - from the anti-war anti-Wall St. wing of the Republican party -
> than that Duckworth will.
>
> —CGE
>
> On Apr 3, 2015, at 10:34 AM, Robert Naiman <naiman at justforeignpolicy.org>
> wrote:
>
> Tammy D. would not be my first choice, and if anyone wants to make a
> credible challenge to her for the Dem nomination, I'm ready. So far, looks
> to be the opposite - every potential credible Dem challenger is standing
> aside for Tammy D - their choice, not mine.
>
> In Washington, the difference between pure evil and swings both ways makes
> a palpable difference all the time. Kirk is pure evil. Tammy D swings both
> ways.
>
> So, for example, indicted Menendez just got replaced as the ranking Dem on
> SFRC by Cardin. Cardin is AIPAC too, but he's not hyper-super-duper AIPAC
> like Menendez. That change from hyper-AIPAC to just plain AIPAC is likely
> to have a big impact in the coming Congressional fight on Iran.
>
>
> http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/menendez-s-foreign-relations-loss-is-white-house-s-gain-20150402
> http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/bob-corker-iran-bill-116629.html
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 10:16 AM, C. G. Estabrook <carl at newsfromneptune.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Duckworth, a pro-war Democrat engineered into Congress by Rahm Emanuel in
>> 2006 in order to exclude an anti-war Democrat, Christine Cegelis, will
>> prove to be a “more effective evil” (in Glen Ford’s phrase) in support of
>> Obama’s war policies.  There may/should be a Green party candidate for the
>> Senate in Illinois in 2016.
>>
>> In 2006 “...Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.), the chairman of the Democratic
>> Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), handpicked Duckworth as the
>> establishment choice. Illinois’s U.S. senators, Democrats Barack Obama and
>> Dick Durbin, as well as Sens. John Kerry (D-Mass.) and Hillary Rodham
>> Clinton (D-N.Y.), aided Duckworth’s campaign…"
>>
>> —CGE
>>
>> [BTW, contrary to self-serving American political mythology about “Munich
>> appeasement,"  British PM Chamberlain got a good agreement at Munich in
>> 1938. It was the breaking of that agreement, not its implementation, that
>> led to WWII in Europe. See Nicholson Baker’s important book:
>>
>> *"Human Smoke: The Beginnings of World War II, the End of Civilization *(2008)
>> is a history of World War II that questions the commonly held belief that
>> the Allies wanted to avoid the war at all costs but were forced into action
>> by Hitler's unforgiving crusade. It consists largely of official government
>> transcripts and other documents from the time. In form it is similar to
>> Sven Lindqvist's A History of Bombing (New York: New Press, 2001), which
>> Baker includes in the book's copious list of references. Baker cites
>> documents that suggest that the leaders of the United States and the United
>> Kingdom were provoking Germany into war (showing, for example, that Britain
>> bombed Germany before Germany bombed Britain) and that the leaders of those
>> two nations had ulterior motives for wanting to participate…” and that a
>> truce was possible before the Wannsee Conference.]
>>
>>
>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 7:54 AM, Robert Naiman via Peace-discuss <
>> peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>>
>> we need to get rid of this guy in 11/16. Tammy Duckworth? I'd take Mickey
>> Mouse.
>>
>> [...]
>> And in a telephone interview, Sen. Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) reiterated that his
>> leaders should give his sanctions bill a vote and blasted the president’s
>> announcement and a top State Department negotiator, Wendy Sherman.
>>
>> “I would say that Neville Chamberlain got a lot more out of Hitler than
>> Wendy Sherman got out of Iran,” Kirk said.
>> [...]
>> http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/bob-corker-iran-bill-116629.html
>>
>>
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