[Peace-discuss] Should the PrairieGreens endorse David Gill in Illinois' 13th Congressional district?

[David Green]

Running in the Democratic primary was convenient for me, and a learning and growing experience. I shouldn't have had to learn not to harbor any illusions about the institutional structure of the Democratic Party and it's limitations, but I should probably confess to entertaining certain fantasies in order to maintain energy and morale. Gill seems to be more seriously entertaining a fantasy about "independents." I'm perplexed by that. And the Young Democrats seem to be all in for Bernie Sanders; perhaps a welcome change from their previous fascination with Ann Callis. Nevertheless, that too shall likely pass. In my opinion we should be firm about the need for a 3rd party if electoral politics is to be worth any of our time and resources.
DG 


     On Sunday, August 23, 2015 10:37 AM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
   
 

 "Anyone running as a Democrat will be a supporter of the Democrats’ pro-war/pro-Wall St. policies (even if covertly, like Sanders).”
In regard to candidates for Congress, that’s a strong probability, not a metaphysical necessity.
In fact, it's been a while since we’ve had any Denis Kuciniches running for Congress as Democrats in Illinois…
I’d be happy to see it happen, but I don’t expect it.
In regard to finding out what candidates support in regard to war and Wall St., we should ask them. 
Green has answered, in season and out of season; Gill has been notably chary with answers. 




On Aug 22, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Szoke, Ronald Duane <r-szoke at illinois.edu> wrote:

"Anyone running as a Democrat will be a supporter of the Democrats’ pro-war/pro-Wall St. policies (even if covertly, like Sanders).”
Gosh, how do you know this?  Was David Green, running as a Democrat, a supporter of the Democrats’ pro-war/pro-Wall St. policies (even if covertly, like Sanders)?  Horrors!  How can we find out what other villainies Sanders, Gill & Green are covert supporters of?
~~ Ron
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On Aug 22, 2015, at 7:07 PM, C. G. Estabrook <carl at newsfromneptune.com> wrote:
Apparently David Gill’s not interested in running as a Green for the local House seat (IL-13).
Anyone running as a Democrat will be a supporter of the Democrats’ pro-war/pro-Wall St. policies (even if covertly, like Sanders).
Should the PrairieGreens therefore look for a candidate who supports our platform?
The Democrats in control of the Illinois legislature have made ballot access almost impossible for third parties. 
It would take a lot of work to gather the necessary signature, but it might be worth it.
—CGE

On Aug 22, 2015, at 3:08 PM, C. G. Estabrook <carl at newsfromneptune.com> wrote:
We should inquire whether Gill’s interested and if so whether he supports the ’10 values’ and the platform David Green is drafting.
Pros & cons can be assessed via email, as well as the possiblity that the Prairie Greens should have their own candidate.


On Aug 22, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
Maybe we should discuss it at our next Green Party meeting. 
 
> From: cgestabrook at gmail.com
> Subject: Should the PrairieGreens endorse David Gill in Illinois' 13th Congressional district?
> Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 14:10:46 -0500
> CC: occupy.cu at gmail.com; sf-core at yahoogroups.com
> To: Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
> 
> David Gill has announced that he’s running (once again) for Congress against the local Republican incumbent, Rodney Davis.
> 
> I’ve been critical in the past of David’s inchoate position on the war - he was not so progressive on the issue as former Congressman Tim Johnson - but he has spoken for single-payer health care since he began campaigning. 
> 
> Should the PraireGreens consider endorsing him?  
> 
> --CGE
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