[Peace-discuss] [OccupyCU] [Peace] PDA Press Release on HJ Res 30

C. G. Estabrook carl at newsfromneptune.com
Sat Feb 14 14:56:04 EST 2015


It's simply untrue that HJRes. 30 "represents a viable alternative to use of military force in the Middle East."

Instead, it authorizes Obama to continue the killing. See the text: <https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hjres30/text>.

Why would you think "the establishment/corporate wings of both political parties" would want to reverse the military and foreign policy of the Bush-Obam administrations, which they have generally supported all along?

--CGE

On Feb 14, 2015, at 2:50 AM, Debra Schrishuhn via OccupyCU <occupycu at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

> However much one may disagree with the AUMF,  it is legal within the
> parameters of our Constitution. Our President is supposed to ask
> Congress for such authorization. HJ Res 30 represents a viable
> alternative to use of military force in the Middle East. If you--or
> anyone else on this list-- don't think it is a bill worthy of support,
> work for its defeat. It truly is as simple as that. You will find many
> allies among the establishment/corporate wings of both political
> parties.
> 
> Call Rodney Davis (IL-13) Champaign 403-4690  DC-202-225-2371
> 
> For the future,
> Debra
> 
> On 2/13/15, C. G. Estabrook <carl at newsfromneptune.com> wrote:
>> Debra--
>> 
>> Would you have said the same of e.g. the Enabling Act of 1933?
>> 
>> Would that have been "a question for each person to decide for herself or
>> himself"?
>> 
>> If not, why the difference?
>> 
>> Regards, CGE
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 13, 2015, at 9:44 AM, Debra Schrishuhn via Peace-discuss
>> <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Carl,
>>> Your question as posed contains several premises, and I would suggest
>>> that a person of free will can accept or reject those premises in part
>>> or in total. Each citizen ultimately bears the personal responsibility
>>> to make up her or his mind based on a reading of the text involved
>>> rather than taking the intellectual shortcut of accepting another
>>> person's interpretation of its meaning. I would further suggest that
>>> there is not an absolute dichotomy involved.
>>> 
>>> The answer to your question, however, is pretty straightforward: Read
>>> the bill. If you agree with it, call Rodney David and ask him to vote
>>> for it. If you disagree with it, call Rodney Davis and ask him to vote
>>> against it. If you choose not to read the bill or choose not to make
>>> your own decision but rely on another person's interpretation or
>>> summary of the text, that is also your prerogative as a citizen. In
>>> that sense I reiterate that one's opinion and understanding of HJ Res
>>> 30 remains  "a question for each person to decide for herself or
>>> himself," and it has nothing to do with vanilla or chocolate.
>>> 
>>> For the future,
>>> Debra
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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