[Peace-discuss] links: Poitras' Citizenfour wins Oscar for best documentary

[E. W. Johnson]

Snowden is what we call a true patriot.  One who loves or once loved his 
homeland and finds it sadly missing.  He was fortunate enough to expose 
the truth and selfless enough to do so even though it might mean loss of 
life, loss of his freedom or worse.   They  can revoke the oscar like 
Salaita's job and Pete Rose's honours but it won't take away the shame 
of those doing the revoking.  It's too damn late for those guys.

As Tolstoy observed and warned, the powers-that-be always oppress the 
people and do evil in the name of public security and domestic tranquillity.

Right now it looks like to me that ISIS are pretty nice guys as compared 
to your Amerikan political class.  They say that ISIS and radical Islam 
is a threat to the USA.  Maybe it's true.

  I suggest you read some of the "minor" prophets in the "OT".  As Kool 
Nahum Puff Daddy Tupac XL says - "Yo' bad karma is gonna open a can of 
pissed-off whup ass on you like that dude with the Sears and Roebuck 
crowbar." [...and the Lord revengeth, and is furious; the Lord with take 
vengeance on his adversaries and the reserveth wrath for his 
adversaries.  the Lord is slow to anger and great in power and will not 
at all acquit the wicked.

Why should NYC & WDC fare any better than Nineveh or Dresden or 
Fallujah?  Because of their "goodness"?


On 02/24/2015 07:30 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote:
> Roger, I haven't seen the film, but I do remember from interviews with 
> Snowden when he first made headlines, not those on the corporate owned 
> media, but with DemocracyNow, and Snowden never claimed to be a high 
> level NSA official. He worked for Booz Allen, a government contractor, 
> along with many others. One of the points he made was that he wasn't 
> "high level" and yet he had access to all the information that he did, 
> and found this very disturbing.
>
> > Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 14:06:48 -0800
> > To: naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
> > CC: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
> > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] links: Poitras' Citizenfour wins Oscar 
> for best documentary
> > From: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
> >
> > I wonder how many winning documentaries open with a lie - Snowden
> > claiming to be high level NSA official, something that he never was,
> > never examine the lie to see what else is a lie, or include outright
> > lie by one of the film maker participants - the conference in Brazil
> > speech - this selection is a travesty - you do not award an Oscar to
> > what is in effect a PR flack - Snowden played the media, still is - he
> > is a thief who makes grandilose claims, many of which are not true in
> > the least - the only thing true is the damage that he has done to our
> > security by making groups like ISIS aware - I am sure that none of you
> > agree, but if you actually watch this with a critical eye instead of
> > fauning all over your hero, you will realize that he never was what he
> > claims that he is and he personally never could do things like listen
> > to your phone calls like he has claimed to be able to do. I wonder if
> > a campaign can undo an Oscar and result in a public revocation.
> >
> > Roger
> >
> > PS - who paid for the room in the hotel in Hong Kong - was the phone
> > call sequence faked - the only thing real is the stolen documents and
> > we don't see very many of those -
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 6:13 AM, Robert Naiman via Peace-discuss
> > <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
> > > 
> http://www.newyorker.com/news/amy-davidson/is-citizenfour-worth-celebrating
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/feb/23/edward-snowden-documentary-citizenfour-wins-oscar
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/22/poitras-wins-oscar-for-citizenfour/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/22/citizen-four-best-documentary_n_6716094.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > (the last has video of Poitras' acceptance speech.)
> > >
> > > It will be quite interesting to see the impact of this on the 
> debate over
> > > the re-authorization of the Patriot Act in June. Will Hollywood move
> > > Congress...?
> > >
> > > ===
> > >
> > > Robert Naiman
> > > Policy Director
> > > Just Foreign Policy
> > > www.justforeignpolicy.org
> > > naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
> > > (202) 448-2898 x1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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