[Peace-discuss] Netanyahu insulted Sen. Durbin. What will Durbin do about it?

Thu Feb 26 23:42:38 EST 2015

I have neither the time nor energy to intrude much on this ruckus, but I must say that Carl has the upper hand in this argument. Obama is a war president, one responsible for innumerable deaths, equally despicable to Israel/Netanyahu policies.  Moreover, Obama has supported Israeli actions all up and down the line relative to the Palestinians, including the recent massacre of the people of Gaza. He has also pushed this nuclear charade with Iran, although not quite yet ready to attack that country militarily if they don’t surrender. Durbin has backed these criminal policies completely. Now, Durbin  is not quite sure that he wants to hear Netanyahu in Congress. I suppose that is better than welcoming him, and any conflict between the U.S. govt. and Israel is to be welcomed. 

Yes, it might be worthwhile to boycott N’s speech, but that is really a marginal matter compared to the drift towards hostilities in Ukraine and against Russia, the U.S. support of Israeli actions, and generally U.S. imperial actions around the world.

—mkb

> On Feb 26, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Robert Naiman via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
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> You could write the same ultra-left drivel about Tim Kaine and Jan Schakowsky as you could about Dick Durbin. 
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> But Tim Kaine did this:
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> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/02/25/tim-kaine-the-latest-hill-democrat-to-announce-plans-to-skip-netanyahus-speech/ <http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/02/25/tim-kaine-the-latest-hill-democrat-to-announce-plans-to-skip-netanyahus-speech/>
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> And Jan Schakowsky did this:
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> http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/02/25/schakowsky-a-jew-decides-to-skip-netanyahus-speech-to-congress/ <http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/02/25/schakowsky-a-jew-decides-to-skip-netanyahus-speech-to-congress/>
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> Why do you always try to change the subject from activism to your ultra-left drivel, Carl? Why do you hate activism so much?
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> Robert Naiman
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> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 1:49 PM, C. G. Estabrook <carl at newsfromneptune.com <mailto:carl at newsfromneptune.com>> wrote:
> Durbin, a fervent supporter of Obama's world-wide war plans - including but by no means limited to his drone program, "the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times" - should be insulted more seriously and more often. 
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> Obama's policy is to mislead the only enemy of his war plans whom he really fears, the US public. Therefore Netanyahu should be encouraged to give his speech: 
> <http://mondoweiss.net/2015/02/netanyahu-cancel-speech <http://mondoweiss.net/2015/02/netanyahu-cancel-speech>>.
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> Durbin should be told that Obama's war-making in E. Europe and SW Asia is criminal madness, for which both should be impeached. The Vietnam war resulted in two presidents being driven from office. The US public should repeat the action. Obama at least is afraid of that.
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> --CGE
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> On Feb 26, 2015, at 1:12 PM, Robert Naiman <noreply at list.moveon.org <mailto:noreply at list.moveon.org>> wrote:
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>> Dear C. G. Estabrook,   
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>> Have you heard? In a shocking insult towards our Democratic Illinois Senator, Dick Durbin, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu rejected an invitation from Senator Durbin and California Senator Dianne Feinstein to meet with Senate Democrats when he is in Washington next week. [1].   
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>> At this writing, The Hill still lists Durbin as “on the fence” on whether he will participate in Netanyahu’s planned tirade to Congress against President Obama on Tuesday. [2]    
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>> Senator Durbin needs to hear more from people in Illinois that we don’t want him to support Netanyahu’s tirade attacking President Obama by attending it. We can still move him to do the right thing. Just yesterday, Democratic Illinois Rep. Jan Schakowsky [3]  and Democratic Virginia Senator Tim Kaine [4] announced that they will not attend the speech.  
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>> Here’s how you can help:   
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>> 1. Sign and share our petition at MoveOn, urging Sen. Durbin and other Illinois Democrats to skip the speech:   
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>> http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/bibi  <http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/bibi>   
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>> If you’ve already signed, thanks! Please share it again. Every new signer in Illinois generates another email to Durbin and Illinois representatives in the House.    
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>> 2. Call Durbin at one of his offices and urge him to skip the speech. If you’ve already called, please call again.    
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>> DC: 202-224-2152 <tel:202-224-2152> 
>> Chicago: 312-353-4952 <tel:312-353-4952> 
>> Springfield:217-492-4062 <tel:217-492-4062> 
>> Carbondale: 618-351-1122 <tel:618-351-1122> 
>> Rock Island: 309-786-5173 <tel:309-786-5173>   
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>> Thanks for all you do to defend peace and diplomacy,   
>> 
>> Robert Naiman 
>> Just Foreign Policy   
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>> References: 
>> 1. “Netanyahu Rejects Meeting with Dems, Says He Doesn't Want to Appear Partisan,” Donna Cassata, AP, February 25, 2015, http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/netanyahu-rejects-meeting-with-dems-says-might-appear-partisan <http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/netanyahu-rejects-meeting-with-dems-says-might-appear-partisan> 
>> 2. “WHIP LIST: Dems Skipping Netanyahu Speech,” http://thehill.com/homenews/house/232160-whip-list-dems-skipping-netanyahu-speech <http://thehill.com/homenews/house/232160-whip-list-dems-skipping-netanyahu-speech> 
>> 3. “Schakowsky, A Jew, Decides To Skip Netanyahu’s Speech To Congress,” John Dodge, CBS, Feb. 25, http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/02/25/schakowsky-a-jew-decides-to-skip-netanyahus-speech-to-congress/
>>  <http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/02/25/schakowsky-a-jew-decides-to-skip-netanyahus-speech-to-congress/>4. “Tim Kaine the latest Hill Democrat to announce plans to skip Netanyahu’s speech,” Mike DeBonis, Washington Post, February 25, http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/02/25/tim-kaine-the-latest-hill-democrat-to-announce-plans-to-skip-netanyahus-speech/ <http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/02/25/tim-kaine-the-latest-hill-democrat-to-announce-plans-to-skip-netanyahus-speech/>
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>>  <http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/02/25/schakowsky-a-jew-decides-to-skip-netanyahus-speech-to-congress/>
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