[Peace-discuss] Proposed flyer for AWARE demo Sat. 1 Aug.

C. G. Estabrook carl at newsfromneptune.com
Mon Jul 20 23:30:03 EDT 2015


Thanks. I take it you vote for this rather than Swanson. 


> On Jul 20, 2015, at 10:25 PM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Carl, this is really good, you covered at least one hundred years of US imperialism and intervention etc. in under 750 words. It's good because it gives us bullet points of information and history. People can research the details on their own if they like. And, it took you mere minutes to accomplish. 
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> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 22:08:40 -0500
> To: carl at newsfromneptune.com <mailto:carl at newsfromneptune.com>
> CC: peace-discuss at anti-war.net <mailto:peace-discuss at anti-war.net>; karenaram at hotmail.com <mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Proposed flyer for AWARE demo Sat. 1 Aug.
> From: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
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> OK, here’s McCoy/Mackinder reduced to under 750 words. I think Swanson’s piece makes a better flyer, but I’m persuadable.]
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> On Jul 20, 2015, at 4:38 PM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
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> I’m not sure we can say we’re opposing the war unless we oppose those who make the effective decisions about war-making.
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> Not to do so acquiesces in the “Obama couldn’t do anything else” line, and that’s false.
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> We could try to edit McCoy (and throw in Brzezinski, to bring it up to date), but I’m afraid Karen’s initial critique ("good for the politically aware, but for novices”) would apply even more to that. I’ll give a shot, so to speak, but I’m partial to Swanson.
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> On Jul 20, 2015, at 4:15 PM, Stuart Levy <stuartnlevy at gmail.com <mailto:stuartnlevy at gmail.com>> wrote:
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> I still think it could be good if there's a way to draw on the Alfred McCoy commentary on the continuity of geopolitics, which Mort had posted last month...   Though it is not close to being a page-long piece,  I'd be happy to sift it for quotable fragments.    This is the piece, again:
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>     http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/176007/tomgram%3A_alfred_mccoy%2C_washington%27s_great_game_and_why_it%27s_failing_/ <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.tomdispatch.com_post_176007_tomgram-253A-5Falfred-5Fmccoy-252C-5Fwashington-2527s-5Fgreat-5Fgame-5Fand-5Fwhy-5Fit-2527s-5Ffailing-5F_&d=AwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=QFLuSakBOh1G6fj55oAEqZKm9c8lfbzGOzfN8hjE6LI&s=XAEFvgpxtRgTRcd_E32JBCLs2tk7G4YXmhA4mUkdOi0&e=>
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> On 7/20/15 3:10 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote:
> To be frank, AWARE demos should focus on US imperialism, hegemony, provocation and war mongering. I would like to make people aware of the recent release of the Pentagon report which commits us to war in spite of the lack of aggression on the part of Russia, China, Iran etc. 
> Engaging in electoral distractions does not educate, it merely agitates. 
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> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 15:04:01 -0500
> To: karenaram at hotmail.com <mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com>
> CC: peace-discuss at anti-war.net <mailto:peace-discuss at anti-war.net>; carl at newsfromneptune.com <mailto:carl at newsfromneptune.com>
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Proposed flyer for AWARE demo Sat. 1 Aug.
> From: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
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> I would have to agree. The writing here is targeting an audience that is probably already in agreement with the author. If the intention is to bring new information to those who don't have it, I'd suggest providing more background on the information provided in the article. But that's possibly what you meant by "suitably edited". 
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> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
> This is good for the politically aware, but for novices, which is often those to whom we are distributing they might not get it. 
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> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 09:30:44 -0500
> To: peace-discuss at anti-war.net <mailto:peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Proposed flyer for AWARE demo Sat. 1 Aug.
> From: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
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> How about a suitably edited version of the following as the verso, the recto being our usual general description of AWARE’s purpose?
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> http://davidswanson.org/node/4836 <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__davidswanson.org_node_4836&d=AwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=QFLuSakBOh1G6fj55oAEqZKm9c8lfbzGOzfN8hjE6LI&s=yPZeG5NFJ8HQ47-H9OjCP75JDkOtgZAUuJaA9c1eqBE&e=>
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